Wednesday, March 31, 2004
Panel Discussion of the 2004 NY Mets: Part II, Electric Blogaloo
In Part I of the 2004 NY Mets Panel Discussion, the professionals weighed in. Today the Mets bloggers step into the batter's box. And since The Shea Hot Corner is a non discriminating equal opportunity blog, a few loyal readers mix it up as well. Part II is pretty long but I promise it's well worth the read. Besides, what else do you have to do? Work? C'mon now. Shut your office door. Build a barrier out of legal size copy paper and put it across the opening in your cubicle. Hell, print it out and read it in the bathroom, on the subway or train. Here is the list of participants:
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
Mike from East Coast Agony
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Kaley from Flushing Local
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Alan from Mets Analyst
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Avkash from The Raindrops
Eric from SaberMets
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
And loyal readers Sam M and Mike M
On to the Qs & As
Enjoy
-Norm @ The Shea Hot Corner
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If you were the Mets owner/GM, would you embark on a complete overhaul of this team or take the middle-road approach to rebuilding the Mets seem to be currently taking?
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Money being paid to Leiter, Glavine and Piazza plus Cedeno, Weathers and Stanton hurt the rebuilding cause. I think I would take the same approach The Duke is taking now by protecting the young talent on the farm. The one difference for me would be, I'd stay on the phone with Twins GM Terry Ryan until I could pry one of his many OF'ers away.
Kaley from Flushing Local
I'd say they are completely overhauling the team now. It's just not going quickly enough for some people. But I don't see how it could go all that much faster without seriously damaging the farm system. That would be a big mistake
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Middle of the road. A complete overhaul does not have to happen, especially with the money the Mets have. I wouldn't have signed Kaz Matsui, but Mike Cameron is the kind of move you should make while rebuilding. Also, most of the other contracts can't be moved and you shouldn't just waste two years while waiting for contracts to run out...
Avkash from The Raindrops
Complete overhaul.
Sam M
Easy. Middle-road. I would trade or release in a heartbeat any player whom I think is actually blocking a prospect who might be part of the Next Great Mets' Team -- but I don't see anybody on the current team who is doing that. Piazza? He's not blocking anybody, and besides he's untradeable. One of the veteran starters? Maybe, but Glavine is untradeable, and who exactly are Leiter and Trachsel blocking? Even the most inane roster moves (Zeile, McEwing) don't really involve holding back anyone of great promise. I'd say they have the right idea: a two-track approach. Some moves (Cameron, Looper) calculated primarily to keep them respectable in the short-term, and which don't compromise the long-term health of the club. Other moves designed to clear genuine dead wood (Alomar, Benitez), and build the team that will contend in a couple of years (Rick Peterson, pitching guru), and hopefully for years thereafter. Those two tracks are not mutually exclusive. I might be more willing to eat a contract to get rid of a guy (Cedeno, Stanton), but in general I think the approach is the right one.
Mike M
Ideally a complete overhaul would be the optimal path, but I don’t think reality would allow that to happen as the Mets are still saddled with too many unmovable contracts for aging veterans (Glavine, Stanton, Cedeño, maybe even Piazza). I personally would have been more inclined to go with internal youth over 1 or 2 of the guys given a contract this off-season, but I do think Duquette has vastly improved the long-term look/feel of this club AND still managed to put a far better 2004 squad on the field – no small task by any means.
What do Jim Duquette and Fred Wilpon mean when they say that their goal, which they expect to meet, is for the Mets to be playing "meaningful games in September"? If you can figure out what this means, do you agree that the Mets will indeed be playing these mysterious meaningful September games?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
The fact that the prediction of the Mets playing "meaningful games" in September hasn't been accompanied by a prediction that the Mets will make the playoffs forces me to conclude that Wilpon and Duquette are expecting the team to lose these "meaningful games". I agree that the Mets have a decent shot of at least being on the fringes of the Wild Care race come September, so I suppose some meaningful games will come up on the schedule. If the team can manage to start off hot enough to warrant a deadline deal for a top starting pitcher and/or quality right fielder, I would definitely expect some games of the meaningful variety.
Mike from East Coast Agony
The obvious answer is that these crafty gentlemen sought a way to say “games with bearing on a playoff berth” without mentioning the playoffs specifically or even whose berth they were talking about. My take is that in their haste to squeeze out a forceful yet barren projection for their team, they chose the wrong word. What they were trying to say is that the Mets will be playing “mean” games in September. Think of all the wonderful meanings, all valid:
lacking distinction or eminence: humble
lacking in mental discrimination: dull
of poor or shabby inferior quality
We’ll surely see some more Garcia-quality classless displays, and luckily that facet is covered too:
lacking dignity and honor
Here’s one that exposes Wilpon’s professed desire to spend money as the season goes on:
penurious, stingy; characterizes by petty selfishness
For our sabermetric friends, this describes the Mets with respect to their division:
occupying a middle position: intermediate in space, order, time, kind, or degree
Finally, charging what Wilpon does for the privilege of watching our projected September infield of McEwing, Danny Garcia, Wigginton, and Phillips is just plain mean.
Kaley from Flushing Local
It means they don't want to look like idiots by predicting this team will contend for the playoffs this year, but they don't want to say to the fans "we probably have no chance of contending for the playoffs until 2006." I guess that kind of cynicism sort of disqualifies me from answering part two.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
They want to be in the race in September. They want to have a chance to play games to get into the playoffs. The Mets will not be playing those games (.500 team at best) and they don't need to be... and they don't need to make trades mid season to try to, unless those trades will help in the future (read: Magglio Ordonez).
Alan from Mets Analyst
I take "meaningful games in September" to mean being within 5 or 6 games of the wild card at some point in the first week of September. Since the current Mets project to be about a .500 team, I think that is a reasonable goal to shoot for. They will have to do a little better than expected, but it is not unrealistic.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
I guess that technically "meaningful games in September" means being in the playoff race, or at the worst on the fringes of it. In reality this is there way of avoiding coming out and saying "We expect to be decent, but realistically we need to focus on competing a year, two years down the road, and accept that we probably aren’t going anywhere this year". That's no secret of course, but the NY market won't accept them simply admitting that they don't expect to make the playoffs this year, even though most every fan already realizes this. I think that the Mets will finish around .500 this year, with 80-82 wins. Not really sure if that translates to meaningful games in September. .500 ball should keep us on the outer fringes of playoff competition at least to August though.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Fred Wilpon thinks it means Captain John Franco and Super Joe McEwing will have the Cy Young and League MVP awards wrapped up by then as they lead the Amazins into the postseason. Duquette just nods and laughs nervously as he hopes Freddy Skillsets and Co. stay out of his (theoretical) hair while he tries to develop future stars on the farm and acquire more "proven veterans" for the bench. The phrase is nothing more than a PR line that's supposed to sell tickets during the off season. The only meaning September will hold for the 2004 Mets will be watching who ever gets called up with an eye towards 2005. That's a good thing, because if they're five games behind in the wildcard with four teams ahead of them in the last month, it means they've probably traded away some of their future for the extremely short term. Again.
Eric from SaberMets
Mets management knows that the Mets stand little-to-no chance of competing for the postseason in 2004. That said, they’re not about to write off the season just yet. It behooves them to pitch a realistic goal to the fans, even one as nebulous as “playing meaningful games”. “Meaningful” can be interpreted a number of ways, though I suspect that Wilpon et al are hopelessly optimistic that the 2004 Mets could catch the proverbial “lightning in a bottle”, a la Anaheim 2002 and Florida 2003.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Ahh, yes. The much-ballyhooed "meaningful games in September" that Wilpon and The Duke keep repeating like a mantra. Well, all but six of the Mets' game in September are against divisional rivals, so they have the potential to play the role of spoiler. That's meaningful, I suppose. I'm sure that's not what they mean, though. If they are referring to the Mets competing for the wild card or first place in the N.L. East, which I would imagine they are, then no, I don't think the Mets will be playing those "meaningful" games.
Mike M
I do agree. I think the Mets will be around a .500 ball club all season long, which will likely put them right on the cusp of WC contenders. It also puts them in a position that if they happen to catch a September hot streak they might actually give us Mets fans a real tease (like the 2001 Mets).
Which Mike Piazza can we expect in 2004: the Piazza who was hitting .333 in 2003 before he went down with a groin injury or the Piazza that came back later that year but did not hit a HR in the final month of the season?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
So far so good (at least with the bat) in Spring Training. I think the real Piazza lies somewhere in between his early and late 2003 stats, but I expect him to hit as long as he's healthy. Hopefully some time at first base will help keep him that way.
Mike from East Coast Agony
Piazza isn’t done, if he stays healthy. The extent of his injury precluded a return to form if not the return that he gave us. My line for a healthy Mike is .280 30 HR 110 RBI; if he re-injures his groin (which from watching his lack of agility around first base appears to be a lock), my line for Mike and the rest of the offense is a flat one.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Piazza seems to be rejuvenated this spring both as a player and as a leader. The story with Mike will be his health. A healthy Piazza will be a vintage Piazza.
Kaley from Flushing Local
Neither. I think his power production dropped because Cliff Floyd went on the DL and there were no fearsome hitters in the lineup any where near him to provide cover. Pitchers threw him junk and out of frustration, he went fishing. His strikeout rate went way up in September.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Somewhere in between. He won't hit .333, but he will hit home runs. .280 with 30 HR sounds good.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Neither. The days where Mike competes for batting titles are over. He should still hit for a good average, but is likely to only bring down that gaudy .319 career number. There's no reason not to expect him to still have a ton of power though. From 99-02 Piazza posted an IsoP above 250 every year. If healthy I'm looking for Piazza to bat around 290, with 30+ HRs.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Both. Piazza has always been streaky, going weeks at a time where he hits nothing but easy groundballs and weak pop flies, followed by a few weeks where he hits .436 with 8 HRs and 21 RBIs in 17 games or some such combo of kick ass numbers. The problem going forward is that the cold streaks will be longer and the hot streaks not as frequent. I'd sign right now for something in the neighborhood of 280/.360/.500 for 2004. Let's hope it's across 150 games, not 120.
Eric from SaberMets
Mike Piazza has been in decline for the past three-or-four years. There is no reason to expect him to hit .330 this season (or any season from now on), but .280 with 35 homers and a .370/.500 OBP/SLG is probably reasonable.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
What we'll see from Mike Piazza this season remains a mystery. Obviously, he's begun his declining years, but it remains to be seen how much playing some games at first base will help to slow his decline, or if it will make any difference at all. I'm inclined to believe that it won't make that much of a difference at the plate for Piazza, so we can probably expect something along the lines of what we saw from him in 2001 and 2002, with a possible slight improvement.
Mike M
I think Mike Piazza can be a better offensive player than what we saw in 01/02. In those two seasons he was THE only threat in the Mets lineup, which gave opposing pitchers very little incentive to actually give him something to hit. This season he has better table-setters in front and better protection (along with around 50+ AB’s); a .300/30+/100+/900+ campaign seems within reason.
Offensively, will Kazuo Matsui be closer to Rey Ordonez or Ricky Henderson?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
I don't see any way Matsui will take as many walks or steal as many bases as Rickey, but his offensive production won't bear any resemblance to Rey's either. If I had to pick one of the two, I'd say Rickey, as he may very well match non-peak Rickey's power, but I'd have to stick him pretty squarely in between the two in terms of offensive value.
Mike from East Coast Agony
It’s hard to imagine a player with his pedigree in an admittedly sub-MLB league producing Rey Ordonez stats. That would be a letdown on the scale of, well, most of our recent free agent signings. I’m leaning toward Ricky Henderson, with much less plate discipline, and the speed and power of his twilight years.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Are you kidding? Rey-Rey was the worst offensive player I have ever seen. Kaz will be fine. He won't hit with the power he displayed in Japan but he should get on base and steal a base and do something that has not been seen at Shea in years, going from 1st to 3rd base on a single. So what I'm saying is more Rickey than Rey.
Kaley from Flushing Local
Ewww. Can I have a third choice? Definitely not Henderson. Henderson had fantastic plate discipline. Matsui is a hacker. I think he'll be stellar in the field and on the basepaths, and will chalk up an OBP around 330. Kind of a second rate Ichiro, with a lot more strikeouts, I guess. Much better than Ordonez. More like Donn Clendenon before he lost his speed.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Closer to Rickey Henderson, partly because Ordonez sucks that much and partly because he'll probably get close to Rickey's SLG numbers. He'll be somewhere in between. He won't put up a .400 OBP like Henderson, but he'll have pop like Henderson. .280/.330/.440 doesn't seem like a bad projection... and that's a lot closer to Henderson.
Alan from Mets Analyst
Of course Matsui will be better than one of the worst hitters in the majors, and a less good hitter than a sure-fire-first-ballot hall of fame outfielder who ranks with the all time greats. Probably, he will be closer to Rey Ordonez, but that doesn't mean much. He will be well above league average and, of much greater relevance, far better than Joe McEwing or Rey Sanchez.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
If I have to pick one of the two, I'd say Rickey Henderson, but I don't think he's likely to be comparable to either. I see very little chance that he's anywhere near as bad as Ordonez, so we can throw that out right away. He might be comparable to Henderson in terms of a leadoff guy with good contact, speed, and some power. Problem there is that Rickey stole more bases at 40 then Kaz is likely to at 28, and Henderson also had exceptional plate discipline, among the best ever in the history of the game. That's what really made him so valuable. Based on his Japanese numbers, Kaz's plate discipline is somewhat sub-par.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Rey-Rey, but Ricky is quite a high standard. Matsui isn't big on taking walks, and the Mets seem to be encouraging a make contact and run like the wind approach. While that will lead to a 300 average, rookie of the year honors, and an all-star appearance, it will do little to remind anyone of Henderson. Also, Matsui went 13 for 24 trying to steal bases last season, so I'd hold off before penciling in 30+ steals.
Eric from SaberMets
Neither is a particularly good comparable, and they’re about as far apart offensively as two non-power hitters can get. Rickey Henderson is one of the greatest hitters who ever played, Rey-o is most certainly not. I think if the Mets can get similar production to Angel Berroa they would be very happy; .280 with 20-20 potential.
Mike M
Ricky Henderson, with fewer BB’s, HR’s, and SB’s. I think Hoch’s comparison to a (somewhat lesser) Edgar Renteria is a very fitting one.
Who is your least favorite NY area print sports "journalist"? Why?
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Gee where do I begin here, Joel Sherman, Jon Heyman, Mike Lupica, Murray Chass. I think it close between Sherman and Heyman as the just love killing the Mets. Chass has let up a bit since Valentine left and Lupica I detest because he too full of himself. If I have to pick one it would Sherman in a photo finish over Heyman.
Kaley from Flushing Local
I don't really feel as strongly about the columnists as you do, but I suppose Jon Heyman would be my least favorite.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Klaspich. Mostly because he writes for my local paper and I thought he at least used to be decent.
Avkash from The Raindrops
We can all go on at length about how stupid such and such reporter is, but really, who cares. If you enjoy reading the day to day coverage in the papers, read it. If you don't, find something else to read or stop reading it all together.
Norm from The Shea Hot Corner
The Axis of Evil: Sherman, Klapish, Heyman
Sam M
Phil Mushnick. His nasty disposition just makes me cringe, even when I agree with a point he's making, which is actually pretty often. (All time, it remains -- it'll always remain -- Dick Young, whom I will never forgive for his role in the trade that sent Tom Seaver packing for Cincinnati).
Mike M
(How to answer in 100 words or less?) Joel Sherman, because I feel like he is far more concerned with sensationalism than actual journalism. I understand that comes with the job – especially for the Post – but would it kill him to let a little objectivity/foresight/common sense about the Mets creep into articles every now and again?
Who is your favorite current Met player? How about all time?
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Favorite right now is Wiggy. I admire the fact the he works as hard as he possibly can. I remember a story form last spring training where it was said he wrote E-5 on his fielding glove just to remind him to errors will not be tolerated. He also took about 150 grounders a day and he' s a tough SOB. My favorite of al time Steady Eddie of course.
Kaley from Flushing Local
Current player: Jose Reyes. He's got that undefinable thing that electrifies the team when he is in the lineup. Seaver had it. So did Gooden and Strawberry. It's a rare and beautiful thing. All-time: Tom Seaver. He's why I become a Mets fan in 1970. I was devastated when he was traded to the Reds in 1977. I cried for days. And I was furious when they left him unprotected in the 1984 free agent comp draft. He should have finished his career at Shea with a 1986 World Series ring on his finger. I don't have much use for him as a broadcaster, but he was my morning, noon and night in the 70s.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Currently its Mike Cameron and that's without ever seeing him play a game of defense. All time has to be John Olerud. Slick glove, great approach at the plate
Avkash from The Raindrops
Current favorite is none other than our main man Jose Reyes. Dude just does stuff you've never seen before and was the only reason to pay attention to the Mets during the dog days of '03. As for all time, Darryl Strawberry. No explanation necessary.
Norm from The Shea Hot Corner
All time: Lenny Dykstra. I just have a thing for guys that do more with less. Um, you know what I mean.
Current: Mike Piazza. Qualifying his title as the “best hitting catcher” is almost an insult. The guy is one of the best hitters of our era – period.
Sam M
All time is easy: Seaver. I was 8 when they won the '69 Series, and he was my boyhood idol. One of my best friends was an Oriole fan, and we must have argued Seaver v. Palmer a million times throughout the '70s. Seaver also took political stands I admired; he and his wife took out a print ad on Christmas Eve (or New Year's Eve, I can't remember which) 1969, asking people to join them in a prayer for peace. It was a gentle and dignified anti-Vietnam War stance, taken after he was asked and refused to wear a black armband on the mound during the World Series because he thought it was an inappropriate time & place.
Current Met is tougher. Reyes in a close call over Piazza. I like to look forward to the bright success just over the horizon, and Reyes symbolizes that perfectly. He's exciting as hell, and the first player they've had come up with a genuine chance to displace Strawberry as the greatest, entirely home-grown, Mets' position player.
Mike M
Currently, Jose Reyes. He is the dynamite this club hasn’t possessed since…Vince Coleman (zing!). Seriously though, I felt that last season as I watched him literally improve as a player right before my own eyes that I was witnessing something quite special. All time, Keith Hernandez. He did nearly everything well, he was the keystone professional that every great team needs.
Are Mets fans justified in being optimistic about the future with the likes of Scott Kazmir and David Wright coming through the pipeline?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
There's still some work to be done in the Mets' minor league system (can we get even one useful outfielder?), but the small group of top hitting prospects led by Wright and the larger group of pitchers with potential led by Kazmir provide plenty to get excited about, especially with Rick Peterson in charge of the pitching throughout the system. Mets fans should have a talented, competitive, largely homegrown team to root for starting in 2005.
Mike from East Coast Agony
I think a better source of optimism is our renewed focus on pitching and defense in general, rather than the particular prospects we have in our farm system. I love rooting for American Kaz and Wright, but I’m not pinning any hopes on them just yet.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Most definitely. This is the way to build a team. You build a core form your minor league system and use the free agent route as hole filler. From all I've read in Baseball America and through the Braunstein Minor League Reporter, the Mets farm system is one of the best in the majors.
Kaley from Flushing Local
Yes, but guardedly so. The system has some very bright stars in it and a whole lot of mediocrity. I'm especially worried about the outfield situation. There are no outfield prospects between Mike Cameron and Lastings Milledge. That's a little scary.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Of course. David Wright can hit and field and can fill one of the two positions the Mets are particularly weak at this point. I know TINSTAAPP exists, but Kazmir is as close as you get and has all the makings of an ace. The fans should be excited about the farm development going on with the Mets right now.
Alan from Mets Analyst
Yes, you should be optimistic, but that's because that's the point of being a fan, and New York teams have distinct advantages. Kazmir and Wright are both worth getting excited about, but they will not make the Mets champions on their own. The test will be of the Mets new management. We will have to see. This off season, they get a B+.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Certainly. Though neither has spent one day above A ball, they both have impressive track records to date, and both performance analysis publications like Baseball Prospectus, as well as traditional scouting publications like Baseball America think highly of the duo. That said, sustained success calls for a lot more than Kazmir and Wright living up to expectations, and the Mets have work to do in those areas. Once that happens, Mets fans can move from collective finger-crossing and wishcasting to optimism about perpetual contention.
Eric from SaberMets
They are justified in being optimistic for a number of reasons, not the least of which are Kazmir and Wright. Kazmir projects as a starting version of Billy Wagner and Wright projects as Scott Rolen. Projections can be deceiving, but those two are about as good as they come at their respective positions. For the first time in a long time the Mets have a very good farm system; more so in peak talent than depth, though sufficient in both areas.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Absolutely. With the right combination of homegrown talent and free agent acquisitions (sign Magglio!), there's no reason the Mets can't contend in 2005 and beyond.
Mike M
Damn skippy! I refuse to say anything else out of fear of the jinx factor (belief in the Mets’ prospect jinx: proof that I’ll never be a fully objective Mets’ fan)
Will Cliff Floyd accumulate at least 500 at bats in a season ever again?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
If he ever does it, this'll probably be the year, but I wouldn't bet, say, the fortunes of the franchise on it.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Odds are no. This is the biggest problem with the Mets organization, the lack of depth in position players. This why a guy like Victor Diaz should be playing the outfield in Norfolk and as Mets fans we have to hope that Jeff Duncan can progress as that's about all the Mets have to fill the outfield spots in case of injury.
Kaley from Flushing Local
Maybe once. If he's very lucky. They didn't him "Glass" in Montreal for nothing.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
This is having a little faith, but yes he will. He will reach 500 ABs next year. But not any other year after that.
Alan from Mets Analyst
I would say less than 50-50 that he gets 500 at-bats, which is why we need better than Cedeno as the fourth outfielder.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Probably, but I'm not betting on it to happen this year.
Avkash from The Raindrops
He'll have at least one before his current contract runs out after the 2006 season, but it's anybody's guess when.
Eric from SaberMets
I think that he will, but I wouldn’t put money on it.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
I don't see why not. He did it just a couple of seasons ago. One injury-plagued season with the Mets does not render him a lost cause. He's only 31.
Mike M
I think one of these seasons he is going to luck into 145+ or so games played. Hopefully it happens while he is a Met, because there aren’t many guys on this team that I root harder for.
How unlikely is the following trade proposal and regardless of its likelihood, would it make sense? The Mets deal Kazuo Matsui to the Rangers for Alfonso Soriano, sign him to a longer term deal, and move Reyes and his brittle legs back to SS.
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
I'd say there's zero chance of it happening as the Mets have no desire to part with Matsui, and he wouldn't do anything to ameliorate the Ranger's alleged payroll problems unless the Mets offered to pay a chunk of his salary anyway. It would make sense from an offensive standpoint, as Soriano is almost certain to out hit Matsui over the next three years. Defensively, it remains to be seen how valuable Matsui really is, but I think it's unlikely that a Reyes/Soriano combo would be better than Matsui and Reyes. And it would make absolutely no sense from a public relations standpoint, as it would be just another example of a front office flip-flopping after proclaiming themselves to have a vision of how to rebuild this team.
Mike from East Coast Agony
Incredibly unlikely, for three reasons: First, Kaz is generating a lot of buzz and the Mets have staked a lot on him being interesting player to follow, so the PR hit would be huge; Second, Soriano is average defensively, and a big reason we picked up Kaz is his defense; and finally, I’m not certain Reyes will be injured more often at second base than at shortstop. He has a history of leg problems, and at the latter position.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
This is about as likely as Courtney Love taking a vow of chastity.
Kaley from Flushing Local
Such a deal could never happen, no way no how. But if it did, it would make no sense because we need to cultivate a pitching-centric team for years to come, and that requires a stellar double play combo. We have two great fielding shortstops playing SS and 2B. And they can hit, too! That's a huge bonus. Other teams should be insanely jealous. While I happen to think Soriano would be a great offensive asset for the Mets, I would not want to see him in the infield.
Alan from Mets Analyst
No chance. Doesn't Matsui have a no-trade of some kind? Soriano is a better player than Matsui, so it would be a good trade.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Beyond unlikely. Even if the Rangers had interest, Wilpon won't trade his prized import. As for whether or not it would make sense... I'd certainly do it. Soriano may not know how to take a walk, but he's a legit 40/40 guy, even if he's fallen just short the last two years. Yankee Stadium has killed that guy. Not that Shea is a paradise for right handed hitters, but the guy is an absolute monster on the road. 306/350/567 with 23 jacks on the road last year and 319/352/582 with 22 HR the year before. I'd throw him in right field, move Reyes back to short, and find a stopgap at second. Unless Victor Diaz forces his way into the lineup, in which case I’d let Diaz play right and deal with Soriano's defense at second.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Mets trade Kazuo? That's impossible. Matsui has a complete no-trade clause in his contract, so it's about as likely as Roger Cedeno winning a gold glove. Even if that wasn't the case, I'd be wary of signing Soriano to a long term deal, particularly since his off-season "maturing".
Eric from SaberMets
Very unlikely; the Rangers would never make this deal. Firstly, Matsui probably makes more money than the Rangers are willing to spend. Secondly, at least at this point, he doesn’t represent enough talent in an exchange for Soriano. It would make a lot of sense for the Mets, and I suspect that they would jump at such a deal.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Sorry, Norm. That's just crazy talk. For one thing, the Rangers don't want someone with Matsui's salary, and he's too much of an unknown quantity for them to give up Soriano. Besides, Soriano is not the answer. The Mets are pretty well set in the infield with Reyes, Matsui and prospects like David Wright, Aaron Baldiris and Victor Diaz. They're a little thin in the outfield, so signing someone like Magglio, Beltran or Garret Anderson in the offseason makes more sense for them than trading for Soriano. All of those guys are comparable or better than Soriano, and only cost money, not prospects. And let's not jump the gun and say that Reyes has brittle legs just yet.
Norm from The Shea Hot Corner
“Norm. That's just crazy talk.” C’mon Vinny, cut me some slack. I didn’t take my daily, required medication when I wrote that question as I mixed up my Prozac and my wife’s birth control pills that day.
Mike M
From a strictly baseball perspective there would be a lot of logic to be found in this move: swapping Reyes back to his natural spot and getting a true (and young) #5 bat, but I would be highly against it because I really do not believe that Soriano is a good fit for this team at all. Plus I’d quite like to see what Matsui can do on an everyday basis.
Is Tom Glavine done?
Mike from East Coast Agony
Glavine is toast, albeit toast drizzled with flaxseed oil. The improved offense might give him a little more support, and the improved defense might save a run here or there (and might not), but I don’t see any signs of him reinventing himself as a pitcher. I think to succeed he needs to.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
No. As much as I criticize Titan Tom, I think with a year of the "New York" experience under his belt and with confidence in letting his fielders make plays he should have a bounce back year.
Kaley from Flushing Local
I think he might be. I wouldn't be surprised if he retires after this season if he has another year like he had last year. The humiliation wouldn't be worth the money he'd forfeit.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Tom Glavine is done in the sense of being an ace or top of the rotation starter. He's not done as a pitcher. I could see a couple of ERAs in the very high 3's-low 4's with the improved defense.
Alan from Mets Analyst
What Tom Glavine shows up is a key question for the Mets. The decline in his strikeout rate is truly alarming, and it will be almost impossible for him to succeed without a rebound in that department. On the other hand, we're talking about a borderline hall of famer, a great pitcher who has always been crafty and able to make adjustments. Again, we will have to wait and see. I would say 60% chance he will better last year's era, 35% chance he will have an era under 4.00, but that is just from my gut, not from analysis.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
I'm in the minority here, but I don't think so. He's never had great indicators, never had great stuff except for a circle change, which you don't lose with age. There's just no great reason why he should suddenly lose it. He never really had "it" Just a lot pitching smarts, a lot of changeups, and a lot of pitches on the low and away corner. I expect him to have at least one more good year.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Yes, and he's not coming back. Making sure Glavine doesn't reach his innings incentives, and thus triggering his 2006 option at $10.5 million, should be high on Jim Duquette's list of priorities. If Glavine pitches either a combined 417 innings in 2004 and 2005, or just 200 innings in 2005, we'll have to put up with Tommy Boy in 2006. Thank you, Steve Phillips.
Eric from SaberMets
I don’t think so. He’s not going to win 20 games or post a sub-3.00 ERA again, but he could still be an above-average pitcher, possibly along the lines of Rick Reed when he was with the Mets. Not exactly $35-million worth, but he’s far from useless (see: Rick Reed 2004).
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Again, like Cliff Floyd, I don't think you can judge Glavine by his first season with the Mets. For one thing, he pitched better than his numbers indicate, except against the Braves. He's a smart pitcher, so he can adjust to the new QuesTec strike zone. The improved defense should also help him. If he stinks up the joint this year, then you can say that he's done, or at least that he'll never be a successful pitcher while wearing a Mets uniform. Based on his track record, he deserves the benefit of the doubt, if only for another year.
Mike M
Nope, but he’ll never post ace-like numbers again. That said, I expect an ERA around 3.70 and 200+ IP this season, which would make that albatross contract of his a little easier to bear.
Who do you see starting in right field for the Mets in 2005?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
I'd love to say Carlos Beltran, but that seems unlikely with a Yankees team likely to have a hole at his actual position also in the bidding. Right now it looks like Victor Diaz might be the guy as I don't see Wilpon breaking the bank for a 31 year old Magglio Ordonez. Short of someone unexpected being available at this year's trading deadline, I don't see many other palatable options.
Mike from East Coast Agony
Magglio Ordonez is the hot name, isn’t he? Would Beltran play right field? I have no idea, though I’d like to wait and see how the Garcia/Spencer platoon works out. If it isn’t that embarrassing, I say we should lock it up cheap and wait another year to spend when we have a better idea of what our young pitching strength is.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
The Mets front office should be burning up the phone lines to the Twin Cities trying to pry away one of their many outfielders. Players like Michael Restovich-who was just sent to AAA-who even though he has a knack for the strikeout has power, good speed, and is a +defender. One of my favorites is Lew Ford who could be our "Moneyball" player as he has posted excellent OBA in the minors. Add in the fact he's 27 I would think about dealing Heilman for him.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
I'd like to see Carlos Beltran, but that's unlikely since some team will have a CF job for him. I see Maggilo Ordonez, only because I think the Mets will make a very hard push on him.
Alan from Mets Analyst
Probably the single highest chance, and it is not an exciting answer, is Karim Garcia. He should have a pretty good year in 2004, and the Mets tend to stick with fairly cheap incumbents. If you asked about 2004 in November 2003, however, Garcia would not have been in the top 10 answers, and 2005 is even less certain.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Without speculating on potential trades, or free agents, I’m going with Victor Diaz.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Jermaine Dye. He'll be coming off a season where he probably won't have great raw stats, what with the A's playing in a pitcher's park in a tough division, not to mention their merry-go-round of outfielders. Also, I can't see the A's offering arbitration after the season, so there won't be any compensation issues. Not the worst option out there at one year, couple million.
Eric from SaberMets
I would LIKE to see Magglio Ordonez or Carlos Beltran playing there, though the reality of that is far less likely. Beltran will probably end up with the Yankees or perhaps a dark horse team similar to Anaheim signing Vladimir Guerrero this offseason. Ordonez remains a possibility, especially if the White Sox decide to trade him during the season. In all likelihood, the Mets will go for someone who is an upgrade over their current situation, but falls somewhat short of the superstar status of the aforementioned duo. Someone like a Carl Everett without the baggage. Brad Wilkerson would be a great pickup along those lines.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Magglio! Magglio! Magglio!
Norm from The Shea Hot Corner
Magglio! Magglio! Magglio! Beltran! Beltran! Beltran! Anyone other than the Pizza Platoon! Pizza Platoon! Pizza Platoon!
Mike M
Richard Hidalgo provided he has a 2004 similar to his 2003 season. If he does and we do land him, he’d likely be an under-the-radar signing that fits this team’s current needs exceptionally well.
Is Braden Looper the right man for the Mets closer job?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
No, in that he's not the guy likely to do the best job at it. Yes, in that he won't be too hard to push aside in favor of any minor leaguer who might catch the front office's attention. A team without post-season aspirations could get adequate, cost-effective work out of the closer spot from someone like David Weathers or Dan Wheeler, but as someone stamped with the "Proven Closer" label to cut down on the number of decisions Art Howe has to make in a game, Looper's probably cheaper than Ugueth Urbina would have been.
Mike from East Coast Agony
A softball question about a guy who’s as good as an over-40 league starter. Of course he’s not right for the job. We don’t need a closer, and the money spent on him is PR money, thrown away so Mets fans don’t have to read about, for instance, how the Yankees have Mariano Rivera locked up and the Mets have unproven minor leaguers in the ever-important closing role.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
I think if Orber Moreno had the kind of September he is having this March, Looper would not have been signed. If Moreno and Rickey Botalaico make the team then the Mets will have back ups for the job. Let's just hope that Professor Rick has Looper on track.
Kaley from Flushing Local
My hunch is that Looper will be a middle reliever by June and either Orber Moreno or Ricky Botallico will be closing for us.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
No, and its not because he's failed at closing before and its not because he isn't good enough, its because the Mets don't need him. Orber Moreno could have his shot at closing, but instead they bring in a guy at over 3 million a year to close for a team that won't have a use for a big time closer (and Looper probably isn't that). It's not Looper, its the Mets situation.
Alan from Mets Analyst
Looper makes the Mets bullpen stronger than it was without him. He is not a top-flight "closer," but the Mets have a lot more to worry about now than having Keith Foulke. If they get to the point where they need that luxury, they can look for such a player.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
I think Looper will be find in the closer's role, but there wasn't any reason to sign him, let alone pay him over 3 million. There are any number of good arms in the upper level of the Mets system that could have filled the role. We're going to be sending at least a few guys back to AAA that don't have anything left to prove there.
Eric from SaberMets
Yes and No. He doesn’t strike me as being much different than Armando Benitez, which is bad. However, when you’re hoping for an 80-win season, closer isn’t really the icing on the cake. I expect that he’ll pitch reasonably well, something slightly below the level of Benitez. I wouldn’t be surprised if he struggled and was replaced by Orber Moreno, who could be the Mets closer in 2005 and beyond.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Braden Looper isn't the right man for any team's closer job. Not even the Tigers.
Mike M
Not really, as his presence might prevent Orber Moreno and/or PJ Bevis from getting the opportunity to pitch for this team. I have two beefs with Looper: the first is that I do not feel his historical performance warrants his salary, and second is that I think he was signed simply to appease Art Howe – he’s eating a roster spot that should belong to a kid at 12% of the cost.
Who is the current leader in the Mets fifth starter race? Who should get the job?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
It may still be too close to call, but I guess Grant Roberts has the slight edge at the moment. He's probably the best choice too, as only he and Aaron Heilman look right now like they have real futures as starters with this organization, and they'll probably both get a shot this year due to injuries and/or midseason trades. Putting Roberts in the rotation and Heilman in Norfolk lets Heilman hopefully regain some confidence with some successful AAA innings, while opening Roberts' spot in the major league bullpen for someone who's earned it by doing more than just signing a large contract, like Dan Wheeler or Orber Moreno.
Mike from East Coast Agony
I think Erickson is. I believe he has to really bomb to lose the job to Roberts. I feel we should give Grant a chance, because if he’s marginally successful and strikes out a good number of guys, we might be able to spin him for something before his lack of conditioning for a full season breaks him down.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
I think Scott Erickson is the leader and should get the job. As good as Roberts has been this spring I like him in the pen as a Ramiro Mendoza circa 1998 type who can spot start and long relive
Kaley from Flushing Local
I've been saying Erickson all along, but if Roberts has another couple of good starts, I think Professor Peterson is going to insist he be given the job.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Without any inside information, I say its Scott Erickson, only because they really seem to favor him. Who should win it? Grant Roberts. It opens up a spot in the bullpen and its time to see what he can do (Yes, I did say that Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest...).
Alan from Mets Analyst
It is hard to judge whether Erickson has the inside track or not -- depends on what paper you read. For my money, Roberts should be the leader. Its the Mets brain trust that really needs to make this call, and if they go with the "safe" choice of Erickson, I for one will be pretty skeptical about them. I see no reason to think that Erickson will not end up just about at replacement level. That's better than Heilman and the other Mets starters were last year, but I think they should be able to extract better than that from Roberts/Yates/Heilman. Also, ask yourself, who is going to contribute to the next Mets team that goes to the post season?
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
It's probably between Roberts and Erickson at this point, and hopefully Roberts is in the lead. There's little doubt here that if they want to let him try starting again, that Grant Roberts should get the job. He was a pretty good starting pitching prospect a couple years ago, has the stuff to be a starter, and has done nothing but pitch well in his major league career. If they decide Roberts is still better suited to the bullpen, Aaron Heilman should be the fifth starter. Some more AAA time for Heilman wouldn't be the worst thing, so I’d prefer to see Roberts as the fifth starter.
Avkash from The Raindrops
The current leader is probably Scott Erickson (I'm typing this on the afternoon of the 24th). If it's up to me, he should get the job, because Heilman, Yates, and Griffiths are better off learning their craft without burning MLB service time, and because I'm not that high on Grant Roberts. He wasn't any better as a starter in the minors than Jeremy Griffiths is now, and most of the optimism around him this spring is based on his youth and his fastball, which will return to its 88-90 MPH range once he starts facing a lineup more than once each appearance.
Eric from SaberMets
The Mets best pitcher in Spring Training has been Grant Roberts, by a landslide. He should get the job, and I think he stands a good chance of getting the job. The only pitcher I can see winning out over Roberts is Scott Erickson, but I think that would be a mistake on the Mets part.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Based on performance, you'd have to say that Grant Roberts is the leader and should get the job. That said, I've resigned myself to the fact that Scott Erickson will get the job, at least until his arm falls off.
Mike M
Roberts should get it b/c of the maneuverability that it provides the Mets in the bullpen. Yates should keep his bags packed, as he deserves to be the first starter called up.
What is the single, best decision Jim Duquette has made in his short tenure as Mets GM? What is the single, worst decision Duquette has made thus far?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
The Mike Cameron signing is by far the best example of acquiring a reliable, valuable player at a very reasonable price. Getting Victor Diaz in the Jeromy Burnitz deal probably deserves an honorable mention. The worst thing that's happened on Duquette's watch has to be the Vladimir Guerrero non-deal and the accompanying media circus, but it's hard to lay all the blame for that at Jim's feet. Trading away a useful young arm like Jaime Cerda to free up roster space for stiffs like Todd Zeile and Joe McEwing may very well be the worst actual deal, which is kind of encouraging, when you think about it.
Mike from East Coast Agony
His best move was hiring Peterson as the helmsman to set course for pitching-and-defense anchored success. His worst was moving Reyes to second for an unproven and quite likely inferior player.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
The best decision was getting the Skill Sets to understand that the team has to get back to basics. Back to the philosophy of pitching and defense. Whenever this organization had success it was because those were their strengths. Also putting emphasis on player development in the minors. The worst decision? being indecisive on the Vlady Guerrero sweepstakes. It was not all The Dukes fault but he should have advised the Skill Sets either we're in this to sign him or we're not. The way the went after Vlady was half-assed.
Kaley from Flushing Local
Signing Mike Cameron. I've had the chance to see Cameron play here in Seattle, and he is an absolute a joy to watch. I think he's going to hit much better for the Mets than he ever did for the Mariners, too. How long has it been since the Mets have had a gold glove outfielder? He'll be so much fun to have on the team. The worst decision the Mets made during Duquette's tenure was not being serious about Vladimir Guerrero. But, I don't think that was Duquette's decision. One thing Duquette did do was lie about Guerrero's medical records. (http://www.flushinglocal.com/moveabletype/archives/000073.html). That wasn't very wise.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Best decision? Far and away, its bringing in Mike Cameron. Better offensive bat out of Safeco and great defense that has immense value. Great value for the money too.
Worst decision? This is tough. I'm tempted to say Todd Zeile or Joe McEwing, but I'm going to go with Jaime Cerda. All three are pretty bad, but I have a high opinion on what Cerda could be, so I'll go with the Cerda trade.
Alan from Mets Analyst
Best: Getting Mike Cameron. Worst: Failing to assemble a decent bench for a team that is likely to suffer a number of injuries.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Best decision, signing Mike Cameron. No doubt on that one. Cameron's bat is underrated, his glove is amazing, and we got him for a good price. Worst decision is either letting Marco Scutaro go to Oakland on waivers, or not protecting Mattox/DiNardo in the Rule V draft.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Best move is Rick Peterson. Not just hiring him to sit next to Art, but also letting him implement his techniques throughout the organization. Worst move is promoting Mike Glavine last September. It's a clear sign that while there have been improvements at Shea, some things never change. The inmates are still running the asylum.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Best decision: I'll ignore the "single" part and combine the trades of Armando Benitez, Roberto Alomar and Jeromy Burnitz into one and say that was his best decision.
Worst decision: Bringing in decrepit oldsters like Erickson, Baldwin and Bottalico that may actually win jobs because of the Mets' love affair with "veterans" and hold back some younger, more talented starters and relievers.
Mike M
Best: Turning Jeromy Burnitz into 3 high-ceiling prospects.
Worst: The PR disaster that was Vlad Guerrero – not that I didn’t understand why/how things broke down the way they did, but to me this symbolized the Mets ineptitude when it comes to fanning the flames of Public Relations.
Congratulations, you made it to the lightning round. I'm going to say a name or phrase and you tell me the first thing that comes to mind:
Art Howe
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
An acceptable means to an end named Rick Peterson.
Mike from East Coast Agony
Sleepy...the dwarf, or how I feel after one of his interviews.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Inept
Kaley from Flushing Local
Sedative
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Bad manager
Alan from Mets Analyst
Test is yet to come
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
I wish we hadn’t fired Valentine
Avkash from The Raindrops
That freakin' grin.
Eric from SaberMets
Clueless
Shea Stadium's 2004 gold ticket package
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
I have no idea about this.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Rip off
Kaley from Flushing Local
eBay bargain
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Wish I had it
Alan from Mets Analyst
Nothing, I live in the Midwest now.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
I live in Florida, and don't get to go to Shea :(
Avkash from The Raindrops
How is any ticket "gold" when one of the contestants is always a last place team?
Eric from SaberMets
Incorrigible
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Not something I've given much thought.
Jeff Wilpon (Mets owner’s son)
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
Far from the biggest problem in this front office of late.
Mike from East Coast Agony
80s movie preppy villain, also robot
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Jim Dolan
Kaley from Flushing Local
Colonel Korn
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Owner’s son
Alan from Mets Analyst
Rich kid playing with a profit making toy; high risk that he'll screw it up.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
I wish my dad owned a baseball team
Eric from SaberMets
Clueless x2 but, frighteningly, has much more power.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Can't hit a curveball.
Mr. Met
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
The best mascot in the division. Yeah, I said it.
Mike from East Coast Agony
why couldn’t they steal his head?
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Family heirloom
Kaley from Flushing Local
Possible right fielder
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Big headed mascot
Alan from Mets Analyst
Over 40 years old, lets keep him.
Avkash from The Raindrops
It's really Jay Horowitz, right?
Eric from SaberMets
Best mascot this side of the Philly Phanatic.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Appears frequently in my nightmares.
Grade B maple syrup, distilled apple vinegar, cayenne pepper, flax seed and water (what Mike Piazza’s personal “yogi” has him drinking)
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
The wave of the future.
Mike from East Coast Agony
Sounds like a K Garcia hangover remedy
Kaley from Flushing Local
It's good, I swear!
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Confusement
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Huh?
Avkash from The Raindrops
The day after Piazza breaks Fisk's home run record for catchers, Jon Heyman will have a layout in Newsday calling for an asterisk next to Piazza's name in the record books due to his use of this "performance enhancing" elixir.
Eric from SaberMets
The new Hollywood diet.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
A variation of the Master Cleanser. You may laugh, but the shit works. I lost a few pounds with it.
Karim Garcia
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
One year placeholder.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
What a pisser
Kaley from Flushing Local
Adios, por favor
Alan from Mets Analyst
Will have a productive season (near league average for RF) as left-handed platoon player.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Piss-gate
Avkash from The Raindrops
Maybe we can trade him to the Indians.
Eric from SaberMets
My favorite Mexican.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Vladimir who?
Lisa Guerrero
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
All the more reason for Scott Erickson to go home.
Mike from East Coast Agony
As she’s with Erickson and Vlad is with the Angels, I think it’s clear who has better taste
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Angel is a centerfold
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
HOT
Alan from Mets Analyst
Nothing to do with being a Mets fan.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
It's close, but I'm still more jealous of Scott Erickson because he plays baseball for a living then because he married her.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Like I said, Erickson for fifth starter.
Eric from SaberMets
Tawny Kitaen redux.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Force your husband to retire!
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
Mike from East Coast Agony
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Kaley from Flushing Local
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Alan from Mets Analyst
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Avkash from The Raindrops
Eric from SaberMets
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
And loyal readers Sam M and Mike M
On to the Qs & As
Enjoy
-Norm @ The Shea Hot Corner
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If you were the Mets owner/GM, would you embark on a complete overhaul of this team or take the middle-road approach to rebuilding the Mets seem to be currently taking?
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Money being paid to Leiter, Glavine and Piazza plus Cedeno, Weathers and Stanton hurt the rebuilding cause. I think I would take the same approach The Duke is taking now by protecting the young talent on the farm. The one difference for me would be, I'd stay on the phone with Twins GM Terry Ryan until I could pry one of his many OF'ers away.
Kaley from Flushing Local
I'd say they are completely overhauling the team now. It's just not going quickly enough for some people. But I don't see how it could go all that much faster without seriously damaging the farm system. That would be a big mistake
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Middle of the road. A complete overhaul does not have to happen, especially with the money the Mets have. I wouldn't have signed Kaz Matsui, but Mike Cameron is the kind of move you should make while rebuilding. Also, most of the other contracts can't be moved and you shouldn't just waste two years while waiting for contracts to run out...
Avkash from The Raindrops
Complete overhaul.
Sam M
Easy. Middle-road. I would trade or release in a heartbeat any player whom I think is actually blocking a prospect who might be part of the Next Great Mets' Team -- but I don't see anybody on the current team who is doing that. Piazza? He's not blocking anybody, and besides he's untradeable. One of the veteran starters? Maybe, but Glavine is untradeable, and who exactly are Leiter and Trachsel blocking? Even the most inane roster moves (Zeile, McEwing) don't really involve holding back anyone of great promise. I'd say they have the right idea: a two-track approach. Some moves (Cameron, Looper) calculated primarily to keep them respectable in the short-term, and which don't compromise the long-term health of the club. Other moves designed to clear genuine dead wood (Alomar, Benitez), and build the team that will contend in a couple of years (Rick Peterson, pitching guru), and hopefully for years thereafter. Those two tracks are not mutually exclusive. I might be more willing to eat a contract to get rid of a guy (Cedeno, Stanton), but in general I think the approach is the right one.
Mike M
Ideally a complete overhaul would be the optimal path, but I don’t think reality would allow that to happen as the Mets are still saddled with too many unmovable contracts for aging veterans (Glavine, Stanton, Cedeño, maybe even Piazza). I personally would have been more inclined to go with internal youth over 1 or 2 of the guys given a contract this off-season, but I do think Duquette has vastly improved the long-term look/feel of this club AND still managed to put a far better 2004 squad on the field – no small task by any means.
What do Jim Duquette and Fred Wilpon mean when they say that their goal, which they expect to meet, is for the Mets to be playing "meaningful games in September"? If you can figure out what this means, do you agree that the Mets will indeed be playing these mysterious meaningful September games?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
The fact that the prediction of the Mets playing "meaningful games" in September hasn't been accompanied by a prediction that the Mets will make the playoffs forces me to conclude that Wilpon and Duquette are expecting the team to lose these "meaningful games". I agree that the Mets have a decent shot of at least being on the fringes of the Wild Care race come September, so I suppose some meaningful games will come up on the schedule. If the team can manage to start off hot enough to warrant a deadline deal for a top starting pitcher and/or quality right fielder, I would definitely expect some games of the meaningful variety.
Mike from East Coast Agony
The obvious answer is that these crafty gentlemen sought a way to say “games with bearing on a playoff berth” without mentioning the playoffs specifically or even whose berth they were talking about. My take is that in their haste to squeeze out a forceful yet barren projection for their team, they chose the wrong word. What they were trying to say is that the Mets will be playing “mean” games in September. Think of all the wonderful meanings, all valid:
lacking distinction or eminence: humble
lacking in mental discrimination: dull
of poor or shabby inferior quality
We’ll surely see some more Garcia-quality classless displays, and luckily that facet is covered too:
lacking dignity and honor
Here’s one that exposes Wilpon’s professed desire to spend money as the season goes on:
penurious, stingy; characterizes by petty selfishness
For our sabermetric friends, this describes the Mets with respect to their division:
occupying a middle position: intermediate in space, order, time, kind, or degree
Finally, charging what Wilpon does for the privilege of watching our projected September infield of McEwing, Danny Garcia, Wigginton, and Phillips is just plain mean.
Kaley from Flushing Local
It means they don't want to look like idiots by predicting this team will contend for the playoffs this year, but they don't want to say to the fans "we probably have no chance of contending for the playoffs until 2006." I guess that kind of cynicism sort of disqualifies me from answering part two.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
They want to be in the race in September. They want to have a chance to play games to get into the playoffs. The Mets will not be playing those games (.500 team at best) and they don't need to be... and they don't need to make trades mid season to try to, unless those trades will help in the future (read: Magglio Ordonez).
Alan from Mets Analyst
I take "meaningful games in September" to mean being within 5 or 6 games of the wild card at some point in the first week of September. Since the current Mets project to be about a .500 team, I think that is a reasonable goal to shoot for. They will have to do a little better than expected, but it is not unrealistic.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
I guess that technically "meaningful games in September" means being in the playoff race, or at the worst on the fringes of it. In reality this is there way of avoiding coming out and saying "We expect to be decent, but realistically we need to focus on competing a year, two years down the road, and accept that we probably aren’t going anywhere this year". That's no secret of course, but the NY market won't accept them simply admitting that they don't expect to make the playoffs this year, even though most every fan already realizes this. I think that the Mets will finish around .500 this year, with 80-82 wins. Not really sure if that translates to meaningful games in September. .500 ball should keep us on the outer fringes of playoff competition at least to August though.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Fred Wilpon thinks it means Captain John Franco and Super Joe McEwing will have the Cy Young and League MVP awards wrapped up by then as they lead the Amazins into the postseason. Duquette just nods and laughs nervously as he hopes Freddy Skillsets and Co. stay out of his (theoretical) hair while he tries to develop future stars on the farm and acquire more "proven veterans" for the bench. The phrase is nothing more than a PR line that's supposed to sell tickets during the off season. The only meaning September will hold for the 2004 Mets will be watching who ever gets called up with an eye towards 2005. That's a good thing, because if they're five games behind in the wildcard with four teams ahead of them in the last month, it means they've probably traded away some of their future for the extremely short term. Again.
Eric from SaberMets
Mets management knows that the Mets stand little-to-no chance of competing for the postseason in 2004. That said, they’re not about to write off the season just yet. It behooves them to pitch a realistic goal to the fans, even one as nebulous as “playing meaningful games”. “Meaningful” can be interpreted a number of ways, though I suspect that Wilpon et al are hopelessly optimistic that the 2004 Mets could catch the proverbial “lightning in a bottle”, a la Anaheim 2002 and Florida 2003.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Ahh, yes. The much-ballyhooed "meaningful games in September" that Wilpon and The Duke keep repeating like a mantra. Well, all but six of the Mets' game in September are against divisional rivals, so they have the potential to play the role of spoiler. That's meaningful, I suppose. I'm sure that's not what they mean, though. If they are referring to the Mets competing for the wild card or first place in the N.L. East, which I would imagine they are, then no, I don't think the Mets will be playing those "meaningful" games.
Mike M
I do agree. I think the Mets will be around a .500 ball club all season long, which will likely put them right on the cusp of WC contenders. It also puts them in a position that if they happen to catch a September hot streak they might actually give us Mets fans a real tease (like the 2001 Mets).
Which Mike Piazza can we expect in 2004: the Piazza who was hitting .333 in 2003 before he went down with a groin injury or the Piazza that came back later that year but did not hit a HR in the final month of the season?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
So far so good (at least with the bat) in Spring Training. I think the real Piazza lies somewhere in between his early and late 2003 stats, but I expect him to hit as long as he's healthy. Hopefully some time at first base will help keep him that way.
Mike from East Coast Agony
Piazza isn’t done, if he stays healthy. The extent of his injury precluded a return to form if not the return that he gave us. My line for a healthy Mike is .280 30 HR 110 RBI; if he re-injures his groin (which from watching his lack of agility around first base appears to be a lock), my line for Mike and the rest of the offense is a flat one.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Piazza seems to be rejuvenated this spring both as a player and as a leader. The story with Mike will be his health. A healthy Piazza will be a vintage Piazza.
Kaley from Flushing Local
Neither. I think his power production dropped because Cliff Floyd went on the DL and there were no fearsome hitters in the lineup any where near him to provide cover. Pitchers threw him junk and out of frustration, he went fishing. His strikeout rate went way up in September.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Somewhere in between. He won't hit .333, but he will hit home runs. .280 with 30 HR sounds good.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Neither. The days where Mike competes for batting titles are over. He should still hit for a good average, but is likely to only bring down that gaudy .319 career number. There's no reason not to expect him to still have a ton of power though. From 99-02 Piazza posted an IsoP above 250 every year. If healthy I'm looking for Piazza to bat around 290, with 30+ HRs.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Both. Piazza has always been streaky, going weeks at a time where he hits nothing but easy groundballs and weak pop flies, followed by a few weeks where he hits .436 with 8 HRs and 21 RBIs in 17 games or some such combo of kick ass numbers. The problem going forward is that the cold streaks will be longer and the hot streaks not as frequent. I'd sign right now for something in the neighborhood of 280/.360/.500 for 2004. Let's hope it's across 150 games, not 120.
Eric from SaberMets
Mike Piazza has been in decline for the past three-or-four years. There is no reason to expect him to hit .330 this season (or any season from now on), but .280 with 35 homers and a .370/.500 OBP/SLG is probably reasonable.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
What we'll see from Mike Piazza this season remains a mystery. Obviously, he's begun his declining years, but it remains to be seen how much playing some games at first base will help to slow his decline, or if it will make any difference at all. I'm inclined to believe that it won't make that much of a difference at the plate for Piazza, so we can probably expect something along the lines of what we saw from him in 2001 and 2002, with a possible slight improvement.
Mike M
I think Mike Piazza can be a better offensive player than what we saw in 01/02. In those two seasons he was THE only threat in the Mets lineup, which gave opposing pitchers very little incentive to actually give him something to hit. This season he has better table-setters in front and better protection (along with around 50+ AB’s); a .300/30+/100+/900+ campaign seems within reason.
Offensively, will Kazuo Matsui be closer to Rey Ordonez or Ricky Henderson?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
I don't see any way Matsui will take as many walks or steal as many bases as Rickey, but his offensive production won't bear any resemblance to Rey's either. If I had to pick one of the two, I'd say Rickey, as he may very well match non-peak Rickey's power, but I'd have to stick him pretty squarely in between the two in terms of offensive value.
Mike from East Coast Agony
It’s hard to imagine a player with his pedigree in an admittedly sub-MLB league producing Rey Ordonez stats. That would be a letdown on the scale of, well, most of our recent free agent signings. I’m leaning toward Ricky Henderson, with much less plate discipline, and the speed and power of his twilight years.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Are you kidding? Rey-Rey was the worst offensive player I have ever seen. Kaz will be fine. He won't hit with the power he displayed in Japan but he should get on base and steal a base and do something that has not been seen at Shea in years, going from 1st to 3rd base on a single. So what I'm saying is more Rickey than Rey.
Kaley from Flushing Local
Ewww. Can I have a third choice? Definitely not Henderson. Henderson had fantastic plate discipline. Matsui is a hacker. I think he'll be stellar in the field and on the basepaths, and will chalk up an OBP around 330. Kind of a second rate Ichiro, with a lot more strikeouts, I guess. Much better than Ordonez. More like Donn Clendenon before he lost his speed.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Closer to Rickey Henderson, partly because Ordonez sucks that much and partly because he'll probably get close to Rickey's SLG numbers. He'll be somewhere in between. He won't put up a .400 OBP like Henderson, but he'll have pop like Henderson. .280/.330/.440 doesn't seem like a bad projection... and that's a lot closer to Henderson.
Alan from Mets Analyst
Of course Matsui will be better than one of the worst hitters in the majors, and a less good hitter than a sure-fire-first-ballot hall of fame outfielder who ranks with the all time greats. Probably, he will be closer to Rey Ordonez, but that doesn't mean much. He will be well above league average and, of much greater relevance, far better than Joe McEwing or Rey Sanchez.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
If I have to pick one of the two, I'd say Rickey Henderson, but I don't think he's likely to be comparable to either. I see very little chance that he's anywhere near as bad as Ordonez, so we can throw that out right away. He might be comparable to Henderson in terms of a leadoff guy with good contact, speed, and some power. Problem there is that Rickey stole more bases at 40 then Kaz is likely to at 28, and Henderson also had exceptional plate discipline, among the best ever in the history of the game. That's what really made him so valuable. Based on his Japanese numbers, Kaz's plate discipline is somewhat sub-par.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Rey-Rey, but Ricky is quite a high standard. Matsui isn't big on taking walks, and the Mets seem to be encouraging a make contact and run like the wind approach. While that will lead to a 300 average, rookie of the year honors, and an all-star appearance, it will do little to remind anyone of Henderson. Also, Matsui went 13 for 24 trying to steal bases last season, so I'd hold off before penciling in 30+ steals.
Eric from SaberMets
Neither is a particularly good comparable, and they’re about as far apart offensively as two non-power hitters can get. Rickey Henderson is one of the greatest hitters who ever played, Rey-o is most certainly not. I think if the Mets can get similar production to Angel Berroa they would be very happy; .280 with 20-20 potential.
Mike M
Ricky Henderson, with fewer BB’s, HR’s, and SB’s. I think Hoch’s comparison to a (somewhat lesser) Edgar Renteria is a very fitting one.
Who is your least favorite NY area print sports "journalist"? Why?
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Gee where do I begin here, Joel Sherman, Jon Heyman, Mike Lupica, Murray Chass. I think it close between Sherman and Heyman as the just love killing the Mets. Chass has let up a bit since Valentine left and Lupica I detest because he too full of himself. If I have to pick one it would Sherman in a photo finish over Heyman.
Kaley from Flushing Local
I don't really feel as strongly about the columnists as you do, but I suppose Jon Heyman would be my least favorite.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Klaspich. Mostly because he writes for my local paper and I thought he at least used to be decent.
Avkash from The Raindrops
We can all go on at length about how stupid such and such reporter is, but really, who cares. If you enjoy reading the day to day coverage in the papers, read it. If you don't, find something else to read or stop reading it all together.
Norm from The Shea Hot Corner
The Axis of Evil: Sherman, Klapish, Heyman
Sam M
Phil Mushnick. His nasty disposition just makes me cringe, even when I agree with a point he's making, which is actually pretty often. (All time, it remains -- it'll always remain -- Dick Young, whom I will never forgive for his role in the trade that sent Tom Seaver packing for Cincinnati).
Mike M
(How to answer in 100 words or less?) Joel Sherman, because I feel like he is far more concerned with sensationalism than actual journalism. I understand that comes with the job – especially for the Post – but would it kill him to let a little objectivity/foresight/common sense about the Mets creep into articles every now and again?
Who is your favorite current Met player? How about all time?
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Favorite right now is Wiggy. I admire the fact the he works as hard as he possibly can. I remember a story form last spring training where it was said he wrote E-5 on his fielding glove just to remind him to errors will not be tolerated. He also took about 150 grounders a day and he' s a tough SOB. My favorite of al time Steady Eddie of course.
Kaley from Flushing Local
Current player: Jose Reyes. He's got that undefinable thing that electrifies the team when he is in the lineup. Seaver had it. So did Gooden and Strawberry. It's a rare and beautiful thing. All-time: Tom Seaver. He's why I become a Mets fan in 1970. I was devastated when he was traded to the Reds in 1977. I cried for days. And I was furious when they left him unprotected in the 1984 free agent comp draft. He should have finished his career at Shea with a 1986 World Series ring on his finger. I don't have much use for him as a broadcaster, but he was my morning, noon and night in the 70s.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Currently its Mike Cameron and that's without ever seeing him play a game of defense. All time has to be John Olerud. Slick glove, great approach at the plate
Avkash from The Raindrops
Current favorite is none other than our main man Jose Reyes. Dude just does stuff you've never seen before and was the only reason to pay attention to the Mets during the dog days of '03. As for all time, Darryl Strawberry. No explanation necessary.
Norm from The Shea Hot Corner
All time: Lenny Dykstra. I just have a thing for guys that do more with less. Um, you know what I mean.
Current: Mike Piazza. Qualifying his title as the “best hitting catcher” is almost an insult. The guy is one of the best hitters of our era – period.
Sam M
All time is easy: Seaver. I was 8 when they won the '69 Series, and he was my boyhood idol. One of my best friends was an Oriole fan, and we must have argued Seaver v. Palmer a million times throughout the '70s. Seaver also took political stands I admired; he and his wife took out a print ad on Christmas Eve (or New Year's Eve, I can't remember which) 1969, asking people to join them in a prayer for peace. It was a gentle and dignified anti-Vietnam War stance, taken after he was asked and refused to wear a black armband on the mound during the World Series because he thought it was an inappropriate time & place.
Current Met is tougher. Reyes in a close call over Piazza. I like to look forward to the bright success just over the horizon, and Reyes symbolizes that perfectly. He's exciting as hell, and the first player they've had come up with a genuine chance to displace Strawberry as the greatest, entirely home-grown, Mets' position player.
Mike M
Currently, Jose Reyes. He is the dynamite this club hasn’t possessed since…Vince Coleman (zing!). Seriously though, I felt that last season as I watched him literally improve as a player right before my own eyes that I was witnessing something quite special. All time, Keith Hernandez. He did nearly everything well, he was the keystone professional that every great team needs.
Are Mets fans justified in being optimistic about the future with the likes of Scott Kazmir and David Wright coming through the pipeline?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
There's still some work to be done in the Mets' minor league system (can we get even one useful outfielder?), but the small group of top hitting prospects led by Wright and the larger group of pitchers with potential led by Kazmir provide plenty to get excited about, especially with Rick Peterson in charge of the pitching throughout the system. Mets fans should have a talented, competitive, largely homegrown team to root for starting in 2005.
Mike from East Coast Agony
I think a better source of optimism is our renewed focus on pitching and defense in general, rather than the particular prospects we have in our farm system. I love rooting for American Kaz and Wright, but I’m not pinning any hopes on them just yet.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Most definitely. This is the way to build a team. You build a core form your minor league system and use the free agent route as hole filler. From all I've read in Baseball America and through the Braunstein Minor League Reporter, the Mets farm system is one of the best in the majors.
Kaley from Flushing Local
Yes, but guardedly so. The system has some very bright stars in it and a whole lot of mediocrity. I'm especially worried about the outfield situation. There are no outfield prospects between Mike Cameron and Lastings Milledge. That's a little scary.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Of course. David Wright can hit and field and can fill one of the two positions the Mets are particularly weak at this point. I know TINSTAAPP exists, but Kazmir is as close as you get and has all the makings of an ace. The fans should be excited about the farm development going on with the Mets right now.
Alan from Mets Analyst
Yes, you should be optimistic, but that's because that's the point of being a fan, and New York teams have distinct advantages. Kazmir and Wright are both worth getting excited about, but they will not make the Mets champions on their own. The test will be of the Mets new management. We will have to see. This off season, they get a B+.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Certainly. Though neither has spent one day above A ball, they both have impressive track records to date, and both performance analysis publications like Baseball Prospectus, as well as traditional scouting publications like Baseball America think highly of the duo. That said, sustained success calls for a lot more than Kazmir and Wright living up to expectations, and the Mets have work to do in those areas. Once that happens, Mets fans can move from collective finger-crossing and wishcasting to optimism about perpetual contention.
Eric from SaberMets
They are justified in being optimistic for a number of reasons, not the least of which are Kazmir and Wright. Kazmir projects as a starting version of Billy Wagner and Wright projects as Scott Rolen. Projections can be deceiving, but those two are about as good as they come at their respective positions. For the first time in a long time the Mets have a very good farm system; more so in peak talent than depth, though sufficient in both areas.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Absolutely. With the right combination of homegrown talent and free agent acquisitions (sign Magglio!), there's no reason the Mets can't contend in 2005 and beyond.
Mike M
Damn skippy! I refuse to say anything else out of fear of the jinx factor (belief in the Mets’ prospect jinx: proof that I’ll never be a fully objective Mets’ fan)
Will Cliff Floyd accumulate at least 500 at bats in a season ever again?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
If he ever does it, this'll probably be the year, but I wouldn't bet, say, the fortunes of the franchise on it.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Odds are no. This is the biggest problem with the Mets organization, the lack of depth in position players. This why a guy like Victor Diaz should be playing the outfield in Norfolk and as Mets fans we have to hope that Jeff Duncan can progress as that's about all the Mets have to fill the outfield spots in case of injury.
Kaley from Flushing Local
Maybe once. If he's very lucky. They didn't him "Glass" in Montreal for nothing.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
This is having a little faith, but yes he will. He will reach 500 ABs next year. But not any other year after that.
Alan from Mets Analyst
I would say less than 50-50 that he gets 500 at-bats, which is why we need better than Cedeno as the fourth outfielder.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Probably, but I'm not betting on it to happen this year.
Avkash from The Raindrops
He'll have at least one before his current contract runs out after the 2006 season, but it's anybody's guess when.
Eric from SaberMets
I think that he will, but I wouldn’t put money on it.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
I don't see why not. He did it just a couple of seasons ago. One injury-plagued season with the Mets does not render him a lost cause. He's only 31.
Mike M
I think one of these seasons he is going to luck into 145+ or so games played. Hopefully it happens while he is a Met, because there aren’t many guys on this team that I root harder for.
How unlikely is the following trade proposal and regardless of its likelihood, would it make sense? The Mets deal Kazuo Matsui to the Rangers for Alfonso Soriano, sign him to a longer term deal, and move Reyes and his brittle legs back to SS.
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
I'd say there's zero chance of it happening as the Mets have no desire to part with Matsui, and he wouldn't do anything to ameliorate the Ranger's alleged payroll problems unless the Mets offered to pay a chunk of his salary anyway. It would make sense from an offensive standpoint, as Soriano is almost certain to out hit Matsui over the next three years. Defensively, it remains to be seen how valuable Matsui really is, but I think it's unlikely that a Reyes/Soriano combo would be better than Matsui and Reyes. And it would make absolutely no sense from a public relations standpoint, as it would be just another example of a front office flip-flopping after proclaiming themselves to have a vision of how to rebuild this team.
Mike from East Coast Agony
Incredibly unlikely, for three reasons: First, Kaz is generating a lot of buzz and the Mets have staked a lot on him being interesting player to follow, so the PR hit would be huge; Second, Soriano is average defensively, and a big reason we picked up Kaz is his defense; and finally, I’m not certain Reyes will be injured more often at second base than at shortstop. He has a history of leg problems, and at the latter position.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
This is about as likely as Courtney Love taking a vow of chastity.
Kaley from Flushing Local
Such a deal could never happen, no way no how. But if it did, it would make no sense because we need to cultivate a pitching-centric team for years to come, and that requires a stellar double play combo. We have two great fielding shortstops playing SS and 2B. And they can hit, too! That's a huge bonus. Other teams should be insanely jealous. While I happen to think Soriano would be a great offensive asset for the Mets, I would not want to see him in the infield.
Alan from Mets Analyst
No chance. Doesn't Matsui have a no-trade of some kind? Soriano is a better player than Matsui, so it would be a good trade.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Beyond unlikely. Even if the Rangers had interest, Wilpon won't trade his prized import. As for whether or not it would make sense... I'd certainly do it. Soriano may not know how to take a walk, but he's a legit 40/40 guy, even if he's fallen just short the last two years. Yankee Stadium has killed that guy. Not that Shea is a paradise for right handed hitters, but the guy is an absolute monster on the road. 306/350/567 with 23 jacks on the road last year and 319/352/582 with 22 HR the year before. I'd throw him in right field, move Reyes back to short, and find a stopgap at second. Unless Victor Diaz forces his way into the lineup, in which case I’d let Diaz play right and deal with Soriano's defense at second.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Mets trade Kazuo? That's impossible. Matsui has a complete no-trade clause in his contract, so it's about as likely as Roger Cedeno winning a gold glove. Even if that wasn't the case, I'd be wary of signing Soriano to a long term deal, particularly since his off-season "maturing".
Eric from SaberMets
Very unlikely; the Rangers would never make this deal. Firstly, Matsui probably makes more money than the Rangers are willing to spend. Secondly, at least at this point, he doesn’t represent enough talent in an exchange for Soriano. It would make a lot of sense for the Mets, and I suspect that they would jump at such a deal.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Sorry, Norm. That's just crazy talk. For one thing, the Rangers don't want someone with Matsui's salary, and he's too much of an unknown quantity for them to give up Soriano. Besides, Soriano is not the answer. The Mets are pretty well set in the infield with Reyes, Matsui and prospects like David Wright, Aaron Baldiris and Victor Diaz. They're a little thin in the outfield, so signing someone like Magglio, Beltran or Garret Anderson in the offseason makes more sense for them than trading for Soriano. All of those guys are comparable or better than Soriano, and only cost money, not prospects. And let's not jump the gun and say that Reyes has brittle legs just yet.
Norm from The Shea Hot Corner
“Norm. That's just crazy talk.” C’mon Vinny, cut me some slack. I didn’t take my daily, required medication when I wrote that question as I mixed up my Prozac and my wife’s birth control pills that day.
Mike M
From a strictly baseball perspective there would be a lot of logic to be found in this move: swapping Reyes back to his natural spot and getting a true (and young) #5 bat, but I would be highly against it because I really do not believe that Soriano is a good fit for this team at all. Plus I’d quite like to see what Matsui can do on an everyday basis.
Is Tom Glavine done?
Mike from East Coast Agony
Glavine is toast, albeit toast drizzled with flaxseed oil. The improved offense might give him a little more support, and the improved defense might save a run here or there (and might not), but I don’t see any signs of him reinventing himself as a pitcher. I think to succeed he needs to.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
No. As much as I criticize Titan Tom, I think with a year of the "New York" experience under his belt and with confidence in letting his fielders make plays he should have a bounce back year.
Kaley from Flushing Local
I think he might be. I wouldn't be surprised if he retires after this season if he has another year like he had last year. The humiliation wouldn't be worth the money he'd forfeit.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Tom Glavine is done in the sense of being an ace or top of the rotation starter. He's not done as a pitcher. I could see a couple of ERAs in the very high 3's-low 4's with the improved defense.
Alan from Mets Analyst
What Tom Glavine shows up is a key question for the Mets. The decline in his strikeout rate is truly alarming, and it will be almost impossible for him to succeed without a rebound in that department. On the other hand, we're talking about a borderline hall of famer, a great pitcher who has always been crafty and able to make adjustments. Again, we will have to wait and see. I would say 60% chance he will better last year's era, 35% chance he will have an era under 4.00, but that is just from my gut, not from analysis.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
I'm in the minority here, but I don't think so. He's never had great indicators, never had great stuff except for a circle change, which you don't lose with age. There's just no great reason why he should suddenly lose it. He never really had "it" Just a lot pitching smarts, a lot of changeups, and a lot of pitches on the low and away corner. I expect him to have at least one more good year.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Yes, and he's not coming back. Making sure Glavine doesn't reach his innings incentives, and thus triggering his 2006 option at $10.5 million, should be high on Jim Duquette's list of priorities. If Glavine pitches either a combined 417 innings in 2004 and 2005, or just 200 innings in 2005, we'll have to put up with Tommy Boy in 2006. Thank you, Steve Phillips.
Eric from SaberMets
I don’t think so. He’s not going to win 20 games or post a sub-3.00 ERA again, but he could still be an above-average pitcher, possibly along the lines of Rick Reed when he was with the Mets. Not exactly $35-million worth, but he’s far from useless (see: Rick Reed 2004).
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Again, like Cliff Floyd, I don't think you can judge Glavine by his first season with the Mets. For one thing, he pitched better than his numbers indicate, except against the Braves. He's a smart pitcher, so he can adjust to the new QuesTec strike zone. The improved defense should also help him. If he stinks up the joint this year, then you can say that he's done, or at least that he'll never be a successful pitcher while wearing a Mets uniform. Based on his track record, he deserves the benefit of the doubt, if only for another year.
Mike M
Nope, but he’ll never post ace-like numbers again. That said, I expect an ERA around 3.70 and 200+ IP this season, which would make that albatross contract of his a little easier to bear.
Who do you see starting in right field for the Mets in 2005?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
I'd love to say Carlos Beltran, but that seems unlikely with a Yankees team likely to have a hole at his actual position also in the bidding. Right now it looks like Victor Diaz might be the guy as I don't see Wilpon breaking the bank for a 31 year old Magglio Ordonez. Short of someone unexpected being available at this year's trading deadline, I don't see many other palatable options.
Mike from East Coast Agony
Magglio Ordonez is the hot name, isn’t he? Would Beltran play right field? I have no idea, though I’d like to wait and see how the Garcia/Spencer platoon works out. If it isn’t that embarrassing, I say we should lock it up cheap and wait another year to spend when we have a better idea of what our young pitching strength is.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
The Mets front office should be burning up the phone lines to the Twin Cities trying to pry away one of their many outfielders. Players like Michael Restovich-who was just sent to AAA-who even though he has a knack for the strikeout has power, good speed, and is a +defender. One of my favorites is Lew Ford who could be our "Moneyball" player as he has posted excellent OBA in the minors. Add in the fact he's 27 I would think about dealing Heilman for him.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
I'd like to see Carlos Beltran, but that's unlikely since some team will have a CF job for him. I see Maggilo Ordonez, only because I think the Mets will make a very hard push on him.
Alan from Mets Analyst
Probably the single highest chance, and it is not an exciting answer, is Karim Garcia. He should have a pretty good year in 2004, and the Mets tend to stick with fairly cheap incumbents. If you asked about 2004 in November 2003, however, Garcia would not have been in the top 10 answers, and 2005 is even less certain.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Without speculating on potential trades, or free agents, I’m going with Victor Diaz.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Jermaine Dye. He'll be coming off a season where he probably won't have great raw stats, what with the A's playing in a pitcher's park in a tough division, not to mention their merry-go-round of outfielders. Also, I can't see the A's offering arbitration after the season, so there won't be any compensation issues. Not the worst option out there at one year, couple million.
Eric from SaberMets
I would LIKE to see Magglio Ordonez or Carlos Beltran playing there, though the reality of that is far less likely. Beltran will probably end up with the Yankees or perhaps a dark horse team similar to Anaheim signing Vladimir Guerrero this offseason. Ordonez remains a possibility, especially if the White Sox decide to trade him during the season. In all likelihood, the Mets will go for someone who is an upgrade over their current situation, but falls somewhat short of the superstar status of the aforementioned duo. Someone like a Carl Everett without the baggage. Brad Wilkerson would be a great pickup along those lines.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Magglio! Magglio! Magglio!
Norm from The Shea Hot Corner
Magglio! Magglio! Magglio! Beltran! Beltran! Beltran! Anyone other than the Pizza Platoon! Pizza Platoon! Pizza Platoon!
Mike M
Richard Hidalgo provided he has a 2004 similar to his 2003 season. If he does and we do land him, he’d likely be an under-the-radar signing that fits this team’s current needs exceptionally well.
Is Braden Looper the right man for the Mets closer job?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
No, in that he's not the guy likely to do the best job at it. Yes, in that he won't be too hard to push aside in favor of any minor leaguer who might catch the front office's attention. A team without post-season aspirations could get adequate, cost-effective work out of the closer spot from someone like David Weathers or Dan Wheeler, but as someone stamped with the "Proven Closer" label to cut down on the number of decisions Art Howe has to make in a game, Looper's probably cheaper than Ugueth Urbina would have been.
Mike from East Coast Agony
A softball question about a guy who’s as good as an over-40 league starter. Of course he’s not right for the job. We don’t need a closer, and the money spent on him is PR money, thrown away so Mets fans don’t have to read about, for instance, how the Yankees have Mariano Rivera locked up and the Mets have unproven minor leaguers in the ever-important closing role.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
I think if Orber Moreno had the kind of September he is having this March, Looper would not have been signed. If Moreno and Rickey Botalaico make the team then the Mets will have back ups for the job. Let's just hope that Professor Rick has Looper on track.
Kaley from Flushing Local
My hunch is that Looper will be a middle reliever by June and either Orber Moreno or Ricky Botallico will be closing for us.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
No, and its not because he's failed at closing before and its not because he isn't good enough, its because the Mets don't need him. Orber Moreno could have his shot at closing, but instead they bring in a guy at over 3 million a year to close for a team that won't have a use for a big time closer (and Looper probably isn't that). It's not Looper, its the Mets situation.
Alan from Mets Analyst
Looper makes the Mets bullpen stronger than it was without him. He is not a top-flight "closer," but the Mets have a lot more to worry about now than having Keith Foulke. If they get to the point where they need that luxury, they can look for such a player.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
I think Looper will be find in the closer's role, but there wasn't any reason to sign him, let alone pay him over 3 million. There are any number of good arms in the upper level of the Mets system that could have filled the role. We're going to be sending at least a few guys back to AAA that don't have anything left to prove there.
Eric from SaberMets
Yes and No. He doesn’t strike me as being much different than Armando Benitez, which is bad. However, when you’re hoping for an 80-win season, closer isn’t really the icing on the cake. I expect that he’ll pitch reasonably well, something slightly below the level of Benitez. I wouldn’t be surprised if he struggled and was replaced by Orber Moreno, who could be the Mets closer in 2005 and beyond.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Braden Looper isn't the right man for any team's closer job. Not even the Tigers.
Mike M
Not really, as his presence might prevent Orber Moreno and/or PJ Bevis from getting the opportunity to pitch for this team. I have two beefs with Looper: the first is that I do not feel his historical performance warrants his salary, and second is that I think he was signed simply to appease Art Howe – he’s eating a roster spot that should belong to a kid at 12% of the cost.
Who is the current leader in the Mets fifth starter race? Who should get the job?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
It may still be too close to call, but I guess Grant Roberts has the slight edge at the moment. He's probably the best choice too, as only he and Aaron Heilman look right now like they have real futures as starters with this organization, and they'll probably both get a shot this year due to injuries and/or midseason trades. Putting Roberts in the rotation and Heilman in Norfolk lets Heilman hopefully regain some confidence with some successful AAA innings, while opening Roberts' spot in the major league bullpen for someone who's earned it by doing more than just signing a large contract, like Dan Wheeler or Orber Moreno.
Mike from East Coast Agony
I think Erickson is. I believe he has to really bomb to lose the job to Roberts. I feel we should give Grant a chance, because if he’s marginally successful and strikes out a good number of guys, we might be able to spin him for something before his lack of conditioning for a full season breaks him down.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
I think Scott Erickson is the leader and should get the job. As good as Roberts has been this spring I like him in the pen as a Ramiro Mendoza circa 1998 type who can spot start and long relive
Kaley from Flushing Local
I've been saying Erickson all along, but if Roberts has another couple of good starts, I think Professor Peterson is going to insist he be given the job.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Without any inside information, I say its Scott Erickson, only because they really seem to favor him. Who should win it? Grant Roberts. It opens up a spot in the bullpen and its time to see what he can do (Yes, I did say that Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest...).
Alan from Mets Analyst
It is hard to judge whether Erickson has the inside track or not -- depends on what paper you read. For my money, Roberts should be the leader. Its the Mets brain trust that really needs to make this call, and if they go with the "safe" choice of Erickson, I for one will be pretty skeptical about them. I see no reason to think that Erickson will not end up just about at replacement level. That's better than Heilman and the other Mets starters were last year, but I think they should be able to extract better than that from Roberts/Yates/Heilman. Also, ask yourself, who is going to contribute to the next Mets team that goes to the post season?
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
It's probably between Roberts and Erickson at this point, and hopefully Roberts is in the lead. There's little doubt here that if they want to let him try starting again, that Grant Roberts should get the job. He was a pretty good starting pitching prospect a couple years ago, has the stuff to be a starter, and has done nothing but pitch well in his major league career. If they decide Roberts is still better suited to the bullpen, Aaron Heilman should be the fifth starter. Some more AAA time for Heilman wouldn't be the worst thing, so I’d prefer to see Roberts as the fifth starter.
Avkash from The Raindrops
The current leader is probably Scott Erickson (I'm typing this on the afternoon of the 24th). If it's up to me, he should get the job, because Heilman, Yates, and Griffiths are better off learning their craft without burning MLB service time, and because I'm not that high on Grant Roberts. He wasn't any better as a starter in the minors than Jeremy Griffiths is now, and most of the optimism around him this spring is based on his youth and his fastball, which will return to its 88-90 MPH range once he starts facing a lineup more than once each appearance.
Eric from SaberMets
The Mets best pitcher in Spring Training has been Grant Roberts, by a landslide. He should get the job, and I think he stands a good chance of getting the job. The only pitcher I can see winning out over Roberts is Scott Erickson, but I think that would be a mistake on the Mets part.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Based on performance, you'd have to say that Grant Roberts is the leader and should get the job. That said, I've resigned myself to the fact that Scott Erickson will get the job, at least until his arm falls off.
Mike M
Roberts should get it b/c of the maneuverability that it provides the Mets in the bullpen. Yates should keep his bags packed, as he deserves to be the first starter called up.
What is the single, best decision Jim Duquette has made in his short tenure as Mets GM? What is the single, worst decision Duquette has made thus far?
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
The Mike Cameron signing is by far the best example of acquiring a reliable, valuable player at a very reasonable price. Getting Victor Diaz in the Jeromy Burnitz deal probably deserves an honorable mention. The worst thing that's happened on Duquette's watch has to be the Vladimir Guerrero non-deal and the accompanying media circus, but it's hard to lay all the blame for that at Jim's feet. Trading away a useful young arm like Jaime Cerda to free up roster space for stiffs like Todd Zeile and Joe McEwing may very well be the worst actual deal, which is kind of encouraging, when you think about it.
Mike from East Coast Agony
His best move was hiring Peterson as the helmsman to set course for pitching-and-defense anchored success. His worst was moving Reyes to second for an unproven and quite likely inferior player.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
The best decision was getting the Skill Sets to understand that the team has to get back to basics. Back to the philosophy of pitching and defense. Whenever this organization had success it was because those were their strengths. Also putting emphasis on player development in the minors. The worst decision? being indecisive on the Vlady Guerrero sweepstakes. It was not all The Dukes fault but he should have advised the Skill Sets either we're in this to sign him or we're not. The way the went after Vlady was half-assed.
Kaley from Flushing Local
Signing Mike Cameron. I've had the chance to see Cameron play here in Seattle, and he is an absolute a joy to watch. I think he's going to hit much better for the Mets than he ever did for the Mariners, too. How long has it been since the Mets have had a gold glove outfielder? He'll be so much fun to have on the team. The worst decision the Mets made during Duquette's tenure was not being serious about Vladimir Guerrero. But, I don't think that was Duquette's decision. One thing Duquette did do was lie about Guerrero's medical records. (http://www.flushinglocal.com/moveabletype/archives/000073.html). That wasn't very wise.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Best decision? Far and away, its bringing in Mike Cameron. Better offensive bat out of Safeco and great defense that has immense value. Great value for the money too.
Worst decision? This is tough. I'm tempted to say Todd Zeile or Joe McEwing, but I'm going to go with Jaime Cerda. All three are pretty bad, but I have a high opinion on what Cerda could be, so I'll go with the Cerda trade.
Alan from Mets Analyst
Best: Getting Mike Cameron. Worst: Failing to assemble a decent bench for a team that is likely to suffer a number of injuries.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Best decision, signing Mike Cameron. No doubt on that one. Cameron's bat is underrated, his glove is amazing, and we got him for a good price. Worst decision is either letting Marco Scutaro go to Oakland on waivers, or not protecting Mattox/DiNardo in the Rule V draft.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Best move is Rick Peterson. Not just hiring him to sit next to Art, but also letting him implement his techniques throughout the organization. Worst move is promoting Mike Glavine last September. It's a clear sign that while there have been improvements at Shea, some things never change. The inmates are still running the asylum.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Best decision: I'll ignore the "single" part and combine the trades of Armando Benitez, Roberto Alomar and Jeromy Burnitz into one and say that was his best decision.
Worst decision: Bringing in decrepit oldsters like Erickson, Baldwin and Bottalico that may actually win jobs because of the Mets' love affair with "veterans" and hold back some younger, more talented starters and relievers.
Mike M
Best: Turning Jeromy Burnitz into 3 high-ceiling prospects.
Worst: The PR disaster that was Vlad Guerrero – not that I didn’t understand why/how things broke down the way they did, but to me this symbolized the Mets ineptitude when it comes to fanning the flames of Public Relations.
Congratulations, you made it to the lightning round. I'm going to say a name or phrase and you tell me the first thing that comes to mind:
Art Howe
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
An acceptable means to an end named Rick Peterson.
Mike from East Coast Agony
Sleepy...the dwarf, or how I feel after one of his interviews.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Inept
Kaley from Flushing Local
Sedative
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Bad manager
Alan from Mets Analyst
Test is yet to come
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
I wish we hadn’t fired Valentine
Avkash from The Raindrops
That freakin' grin.
Eric from SaberMets
Clueless
Shea Stadium's 2004 gold ticket package
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
I have no idea about this.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Rip off
Kaley from Flushing Local
eBay bargain
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Wish I had it
Alan from Mets Analyst
Nothing, I live in the Midwest now.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
I live in Florida, and don't get to go to Shea :(
Avkash from The Raindrops
How is any ticket "gold" when one of the contestants is always a last place team?
Eric from SaberMets
Incorrigible
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Not something I've given much thought.
Jeff Wilpon (Mets owner’s son)
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
Far from the biggest problem in this front office of late.
Mike from East Coast Agony
80s movie preppy villain, also robot
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Jim Dolan
Kaley from Flushing Local
Colonel Korn
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Owner’s son
Alan from Mets Analyst
Rich kid playing with a profit making toy; high risk that he'll screw it up.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
I wish my dad owned a baseball team
Eric from SaberMets
Clueless x2 but, frighteningly, has much more power.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Can't hit a curveball.
Mr. Met
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
The best mascot in the division. Yeah, I said it.
Mike from East Coast Agony
why couldn’t they steal his head?
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Family heirloom
Kaley from Flushing Local
Possible right fielder
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Big headed mascot
Alan from Mets Analyst
Over 40 years old, lets keep him.
Avkash from The Raindrops
It's really Jay Horowitz, right?
Eric from SaberMets
Best mascot this side of the Philly Phanatic.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Appears frequently in my nightmares.
Grade B maple syrup, distilled apple vinegar, cayenne pepper, flax seed and water (what Mike Piazza’s personal “yogi” has him drinking)
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
The wave of the future.
Mike from East Coast Agony
Sounds like a K Garcia hangover remedy
Kaley from Flushing Local
It's good, I swear!
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Confusement
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Huh?
Avkash from The Raindrops
The day after Piazza breaks Fisk's home run record for catchers, Jon Heyman will have a layout in Newsday calling for an asterisk next to Piazza's name in the record books due to his use of this "performance enhancing" elixir.
Eric from SaberMets
The new Hollywood diet.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
A variation of the Master Cleanser. You may laugh, but the shit works. I lost a few pounds with it.
Karim Garcia
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
One year placeholder.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
What a pisser
Kaley from Flushing Local
Adios, por favor
Alan from Mets Analyst
Will have a productive season (near league average for RF) as left-handed platoon player.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Piss-gate
Avkash from The Raindrops
Maybe we can trade him to the Indians.
Eric from SaberMets
My favorite Mexican.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Vladimir who?
Lisa Guerrero
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
All the more reason for Scott Erickson to go home.
Mike from East Coast Agony
As she’s with Erickson and Vlad is with the Angels, I think it’s clear who has better taste
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Angel is a centerfold
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
HOT
Alan from Mets Analyst
Nothing to do with being a Mets fan.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
It's close, but I'm still more jealous of Scott Erickson because he plays baseball for a living then because he married her.
Avkash from The Raindrops
Like I said, Erickson for fifth starter.
Eric from SaberMets
Tawny Kitaen redux.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Force your husband to retire!
Tuesday, March 30, 2004
Merry Opening Day
Part II of the 2004 Mets Panel Discussion should be posted tomorrow. I started piecing it together last night and had a better chance to go through some of the answers and they are funny, interesting and insightful. Be sure to check back.
THE YANKEES LOSE!!!!!!!! THE YANKEES LOSE!!!!!! DDDDAAAAA - - - YANKEES LOSE!!!!!!
Only the Mets can turn a Japanese iron man who played in 1,143 consecutive games into a glass shortstop. First Kazuo Matsui cut his finger, which put him on the shelf for a week and now he has a strained right wrist, which will put him out of action for a few more days. Matsui's injury is just the latest in a series of bad news and equally poor defensive play. The Mets went into yesterday's game tied for last in the National League with 35 errors this spring. The shoddy defense prompted the usually calm and reserved Art Howe to order the team to do fundamentals drills, focusing on fielding bunts and hitting the cut off man. If this doesn't work, the Hot Corner proposes Uncle Artie send any player who commits an error to the practice field where they will run a 1/2 hour of wind sprints per error under the watchful eye of the Godfather of Infield Matt Galante.
Former player, now a sports radio talk show host, Andy Van Big Mouth said on the air recently that Tom Glavine does not like to be caught by Mike Piazza because of his poor defense. Apparently Van Slyke spoke in such a way that made the average listener think that Glavine told him as much. However, Van Slyke was simply speculating that Glavine must not like pitching to Piazza and had to admit this to clear up the confusion. I bring this up because last week during an MLB Radio broadcast of a Mets game former Met Darryl Hamilton was announcing the game along with Jim Leyritz and some play-by-play guy Seth something or other. I was already annoyed because I'm at work trying to do a million things at once while at the same time listen to the game, but these jokers are too busy shooting the shit about everything on earth other than the damn game! Then out of no where Hamilton decided to finally talk about the Mets and issued a blanket statement that all Mets pitchers do not like pitching to Mike Piazza because of his poor defense. I was stunned. I knew that if any Mets pitcher really felt this way there's no chance in hell they are going to tell Hamilton, yet Hamilton is on the air talking as if every Mets pitcher told him this. So now I'm pissed. First, I have been listening to this game for ten minutes and I still don't know who is pitching for either team and now when they finally address the Mets, it's pure BS. These MLB Radio clowns are taking e-mails so I shoot off the following question, trying as hard as I can to be civil:
Hamilton just said that Mets pitchers prefer to pitch to Vance Wilson over Piazza because of Piazza's perceived poor defense. Was this statement based on what any/all Mets pitchers actually told him or was this his opinion speculating on what Mets pitchers prefer?
Thanks,
-Norm at The Shea Hot Corner (http://sheahotcorner.blogspot.com)
They actually read my question on the air (leaving out my blatant attempt to plug my little blog of course). Hamilton, as articulate as ever, is like "uh, um, well, gee, uh, I was just speculating."
What an idiot. No, let me qualify that. What an irresponsible idiot.
THE YANKEES LOSE!!!!!!!! THE YANKEES LOSE!!!!!! DDDDAAAAA - - - YANKEES LOSE!!!!!!
Only the Mets can turn a Japanese iron man who played in 1,143 consecutive games into a glass shortstop. First Kazuo Matsui cut his finger, which put him on the shelf for a week and now he has a strained right wrist, which will put him out of action for a few more days. Matsui's injury is just the latest in a series of bad news and equally poor defensive play. The Mets went into yesterday's game tied for last in the National League with 35 errors this spring. The shoddy defense prompted the usually calm and reserved Art Howe to order the team to do fundamentals drills, focusing on fielding bunts and hitting the cut off man. If this doesn't work, the Hot Corner proposes Uncle Artie send any player who commits an error to the practice field where they will run a 1/2 hour of wind sprints per error under the watchful eye of the Godfather of Infield Matt Galante.
Former player, now a sports radio talk show host, Andy Van Big Mouth said on the air recently that Tom Glavine does not like to be caught by Mike Piazza because of his poor defense. Apparently Van Slyke spoke in such a way that made the average listener think that Glavine told him as much. However, Van Slyke was simply speculating that Glavine must not like pitching to Piazza and had to admit this to clear up the confusion. I bring this up because last week during an MLB Radio broadcast of a Mets game former Met Darryl Hamilton was announcing the game along with Jim Leyritz and some play-by-play guy Seth something or other. I was already annoyed because I'm at work trying to do a million things at once while at the same time listen to the game, but these jokers are too busy shooting the shit about everything on earth other than the damn game! Then out of no where Hamilton decided to finally talk about the Mets and issued a blanket statement that all Mets pitchers do not like pitching to Mike Piazza because of his poor defense. I was stunned. I knew that if any Mets pitcher really felt this way there's no chance in hell they are going to tell Hamilton, yet Hamilton is on the air talking as if every Mets pitcher told him this. So now I'm pissed. First, I have been listening to this game for ten minutes and I still don't know who is pitching for either team and now when they finally address the Mets, it's pure BS. These MLB Radio clowns are taking e-mails so I shoot off the following question, trying as hard as I can to be civil:
Hamilton just said that Mets pitchers prefer to pitch to Vance Wilson over Piazza because of Piazza's perceived poor defense. Was this statement based on what any/all Mets pitchers actually told him or was this his opinion speculating on what Mets pitchers prefer?
Thanks,
-Norm at The Shea Hot Corner (http://sheahotcorner.blogspot.com)
They actually read my question on the air (leaving out my blatant attempt to plug my little blog of course). Hamilton, as articulate as ever, is like "uh, um, well, gee, uh, I was just speculating."
What an idiot. No, let me qualify that. What an irresponsible idiot.
Sunday, March 28, 2004
Panel Discussion of the 2004 NY Mets: Part One, The Professionals Weigh In
The New York Mets’ house is in disarray. After going from first to worst in what seems like a blink of an eye, the team is at a crossroads: to rebuild or not to rebuild? But you know what they say; “You can’t rebuild in New York.” Mets’ General Manager Jim Duquette’s moves so far have proven that old adage at least partially true, even when staring at a team begging to be gutted. Duquette has embarked upon a stealthy reconstruction project by walking a fine line between not wanting to be perceived as “rebuilding,” while at the same time, well . . ., rebuilding.
On the “we’re not totally rebuilding” wing of chateau de blue and orange, aging, declining, expensive, and injury prone “stars” still have jobs in Flushing. The Mets were even active on the free agent market this off-season. On the rebuilding wing of the Mets’ house, Duquette has trimmed away quite a bit of the rotten exterior in dumping several bloated, under performing contracts and replenishing the farm system with young, cheap talent. Duquette has refused to make any deal that requires him to give up future draft picks and has fought the temptation to give in to the NY media’s loud and constant plight for the Mets to trade top young players and prospects like Jose Reyes and Scott Kazmir for more established players.
While the current state of the Mets’ house might be in a bit of disarray, this is a necessary present evil of implementing “the plan” of pouring a solid foundation for the future. The product of Duquette’s partially implemented plan will take the field in a few short weeks. The 2004 version of the Mets will be a potpourri of veterans and youngsters, which most commentators agree will stink. But if this team stays healthy and if the players produce to their abilities, the 2004 Mets might surprise some people. That’s a lot of “ifs” and one too many “mights.” I was planning on writing an article addressing some of these questions but quite frankly, that’s a lot of work. So I called in back-up. I have asked an All Star panel of journalists, analysts and commentators to provide their insight into some of these “ifs” and “mights.” They are:
Pete Abraham. Pete is a writer for The Journal News and is the “Official Friend of the NY Baseball Blogger” after writing his article A Growing Sports Voice, detailing a little of the history and current state of the NY baseball blogging community. Pete’s daily Mets coverage is a refreshing departure from the form over substance pieces riddling the sports pages of many NY newspapers.
Bryan Hoch. Bryan jumped on the Mets scene when he created Metsonline.net as a high school freshmen, which was the hot spot to learn about the Mets on the Internet from 1996 to 2002. Bryan parlayed that into a journalism career as a freelance baseball writer. He maintains the Always Amazin' Weblog on NJ.com and is a contributing writer to New York Mets Inside Pitch, The Wave of Long Island and FOXSports.com.
Tim Marchman. Tim is the fiction critic of the New York Sun, for which he also writes regularly on baseball. Tim’s work has appeared in local and national publications including the Weekly Standard, National Review, and the New York Press. Tim is also the Senior Editor for the New Partisan, an urban-based web journal of politics, culture, the arts, and sports. Alex Belth of Bronx Banter has called Tim “one of the brightest young baseball writers in the country.”
Doug Pappas. Doug is the Chairman of The Society for American Baseball Research (SABR) Business of Baseball Committee and writes regularly for Baseball Prospectus. Doug also maintains the Business of Baseball Pages and he has recently created his own weblog; Doug’s Business of Baseball Weblog. While Doug usually comments on what is going on off the field, as you’ll see he doesn’t hesitate to give his two cents on things a little closer to the field of play, especially when it concerns the Mets.
Ed Tsunoda. Ed is the creator and administrator of NYFansites.com, one of the largest and most popular fan websites for any baseball team on the Internet. Ed’s got his thumb on the pulse of the Mets organization, particularly the goings on in Port St. Lucie. Ed is also the best source available for information on Mets minor league prospects. If you want the minor league stats and a bevy of photos of Scott Kazmir or David Wright, you go to Ed.
Before I go any further I would like to thank Pete, Bryan, Tim, Doug and Ed for taking the time to stop by my little back-alley corner of the blogoshphere for a chat. In addition to these professionals, I also enlisted the services of some of the most knowledgeable and passionate Mets fans around; my fellow Mets bloggers, who I also want to thank for their quick and thoughtful responses. In today’s Part I of this panel discussion you will get a steady diet of responses to questions from Pete, Bryan, Tim, Doug and Ed and a sprinkling of Mets blogger responses as well. And what the hell, since this is my blog I might chime in every so often too. I will post Part II in a few days, which will be an all Mets blogger bonanza. Okay, I’ll quit babbling so we can dive into the questions and answers.
Enjoy,
-Norm @ The Shea Hot Corner
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What do Jim Duquette and Fred Wilpon mean when they say that their goal, which they expect to meet, is for the Mets to be playing "meaningful games in September"? If you can figure out what this means, do you agree that the Mets will indeed be playing these mysterious meaningful September games?
Abraham
Duquette is a realist and knows that only a handful of 90-loss teams in baseball history have made the playoffs a year later. He has sold the front office on the idea that it will be enough for the Mets to simply be playing for something in September. That could be .500 or to stay mathematically alive into the final week of the season. After two years of being in dead last, the Mets want their late-season games to mean something. I'm not sure if I agree that will be the case. If Reyes is healthy, I think every game is meaningful because you can watch a special player.
Hoch
The goal, and I think it's a very good one, is to not have Shea Stadium resembling a graveyard for those late September series. Nobody's expecting the Mets to seriously compete this year for a pennant, but it'd be nice to see some excitement in the ballpark -- maybe they'll be shooting for .500, or disrupting a wild card race in some way. They've got series with the Braves and the Phillies that month, so things could actually be interesting out there.
Marchman
Assuming Piazza and Floyd can hold up, I think they'll be playing meaningful games well into September. I'd guess they take "meaningful" as something along the lines of "within 5 games of the wild card leader," but your guess is as good as mine.
Pappas
I assume they mean that the Mets will contend for the division or the wild card into September. I don't think they will. I believe their realistic upside for 2004 is a .500 record.
Tsunoda
You'd have to ask them what they mean. :) I've also heard them say that the playoffs aren't "realistic". I think it's intentionally oblique. I think it's broad meaning is they won't be mathematically eliminated before September. In which case, yeah, it's feasible they could put off elimination until the 5th or 10th of September.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
The Duke and Freddy Skill Sets are hoping the teams is in contention for either a Wild Card berth or (PLEASE GOD) a division title. The Duke wants this to show he can turn the franchise around with his "plan" and Freddy just doesn't want to sell $5.00 upper deck tickets for the second year in a row. That may be a bit harsh, I think Freddy really wants to win desperately but is a bit confused on how to do it. After the Phillies, Cubs, and Astros what teams in the NL are really that much better than the Mets?
Which Mike Piazza can we expect in 2004: the Piazza who was hitting .333 in 2003 before he went down with a groin injury or the Piazza that came back later that year but did not hit a HR in the final month of the season?
Abraham
Piazza was still hurt when he came back last season. Now healthy, he is raking in spring training. His first home run on March 23 was a laser beam. If he is healthy and if he gets an extra 50-100 at-bats by playing first base a few times, he is capable of .315-35-110.
Hoch
Mike has looked great this spring; last night in Viera (Mar. 23) he hit two homers and had five RBI beating up on the Expos. He hasn't been exactly fluid around first base, but I see no problems with his swing; he looks strong and lean, and I think you'll see that first Piazza.
Marchman
The latter. He's a 35-year old catcher.
Pappas
Piazza's healthier, but also a year older. Look for 90% of the early-2003 Piazza.
Tsunoda
I don't think either is a reasonable expectation. We're going to see one of the greatest hitters of our time in the twilight of his career. I don't think he'll still be great, nor do I think his post-injury performance is reflective of what we should expect this year. It's probably reasonable to expect on going injuries. Something along the lines of .280/.350/.500 maybe 20+ HRs and 85+ RBI? Hopefully 400-500 ABs.
Alan from Mets Analyst
Of course, Mike Piazza will not hit .333, but he will hit some home runs, so the answer is neither. I think .290 with 35 homers is a realistic hope for Piazza, probably somewhat on the optimistic side. He could, however, do better or worse. That's the beauty of the game. I would advise any Mets fan watching Piazza, though, to remember they are watching the greatest player who has ever spent part of his prime as a Met, a man who carried the team on his shoulders through several winning seasons, and the greatest hitting catcher of all time. He still hits the ball incredibly hard -- his hits really look different. So enjoy and appreciate him.
Norm from The Shea Hot Corner
Since Piazza is one of my favorite Mets, I just thought I’d jump in here and point out that an aging Piazza in his decline is still more valuable offensively than just about any other catcher in baseball. Piazza’s last full season relatively injury free was 2002, one of Piazza’s worst seasons, where he played catcher just about every day, had absolutely no protection in the line-up, and played half his games in one of the most severe pitchers’ parks in baseball. He still hit 33 HRs with a .286/.377/.483 line. Not too shabby.
Offensively, will Kazuo Matsui be closer to Rey Ordonez or Ricky Henderson?
Abraham
Rey Ordonez? That's an insult. It may take Kaz a month or two to adjust but he can handle the bat and he's a great base-runner. He also has better pop than you would expect. He has left-handed power.
Hoch
Can I write in Edgar Renteria? You won't see much power from Matsui, but you'll see speed and extra-base slashes into the gaps, so I guess I'd say Henderson. He might strike out like Ordonez, though, if he tries to swing for the fences as they say he did his last couple of years in Japan.
Marchman
Closer to Rickey, though that's a pretty tough standard. I think he'll be a league-average hitter with good speed and defense; that's plenty valuable. Plus, he's got style, which the homely Mets could certainly use.
Pappas
That's an awfully broad range: from cancer on the offense to first ballot Hall of Famer. Henderson without the walks and with fewer stolen bases.
Tsunoda
Well, not Rickey Henderson. Apparently the "you don't walk off the island" saying applies to the Pacific Rim as well. He's an exciting player. He'll hit some, He'll run like the wind. He'll make amazing stops. He's a pretty smart player. Jimmy Rollins or Christan Guzman is a better compare.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Something in the middle is more likely. I think The Roto Times' projected stats for him are all slightly higher than what should be expected. With apologies to all the Buddy Harrelson and Kevin Elster fans out there, it won't be too difficult for Matsui to become the best-hitting Mets shortstop of all time. And that's exactly what I expect him to do.
Are Mets fans justified in being optimistic about the future with the likes of Scott Kazmir and David Wright coming through the pipeline?
Abraham
David Wright is the real deal in my opinion. Hits, runs, fields, the whole package. Too good to be true as a kid as well. Kazmir is impossible to tell at this point because he is so young. They really baby him and I suspect that is because he potential elbow issues. My gut feeling on him is that he will not be as good as hoped. I think he's too frail physically.
Hoch
Yes. You'd be hard-pressed to find any scout, GM or talent evaluator who doesn't rave about these two. If they stay healthy, they will play a major part in the future of this team.
Marchman
Sure. Those two are fantastic prospects, and the Mets have some depth behind them. I'd be a lot more excited about Wright, though, until Kazmir proves he's a starter.
Pappas
Yes. The Mets have several impact players in the pipeline, and have been smart enough not to trade them away for more short-term fixes.
Tsunoda
Hell yeah. Those kids make me jump up and down with my fists thrust in the air like a 10 year old at a World Series game, just watching them in BP. A lot of Met fans are disenchanted with the minor leagues because of Generation K. A lot of hype and not a lot of production. But if you're even 25-30 years old and you remember what it was like when Mookie, Lenny, Wally, El Sid, Darling, Darryl, and Doc were the core of the team...how could you not want to rebuild around these kids? They are the goods.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Absolutely. A couple years ago the farm system was a disaster. Now we're graded as a solid B or B+ by most the scouting services and publications. That's a huge upgrade. Kazmir has been dominant in his pro career, and might have the highest ceiling of any pitching prospect in the game. Wright draws comps to Scott Rolen every day. Aaron Baldiris has been phenomenal. Victor Diaz has been a monster with the bat. Matt Peterson has progressed, and could be in AAA by the end of the season. The list goes on. There's a lot of talent in the system, and with some good management, we could good for a very long time.
Will Cliff Floyd accumulate at least 500 at bats in a season ever again?
Abraham
I hope so. Cliff is a really good guy and cares about performing well. I'd like to see what he could do spending an entire season healthy and with some lineup protection.
Hoch
Injuries are so unpredictable, and you know Cliff's track record. He deserves it; let's see if he can do stay healthy.
Marchman
I don't think he should. The best way to use him is to accept his fragility and spot him. A lot of clubs have got a lot out of Ellis Burks adhering to the simple principle that it's better to work with a man's limitations than to pretend they don't exist.
Pappas
Probably not, but 130 games of Floyd will still be the best-hitting OF the Mets have. Cameron's a better overall player, though, because he's a defensive god.
Tsunoda
I hope so. I think he will. He's a gamer. They should've shut him down last June and given him more time to come back. It bugs me that he limped into August last year pointlessly, and now he's still a little tender this spring.
Mike from East Coast Agony
I doubt it. Cornelius is a very skilled player, but the Mets need to rest him and accept that he will miss some time. Thankfully, we’ve planned accordingly and assembled a great bench. Shit.
How unlikely is the following trade proposal and regardless of its likelihood, would it make sense? The Mets deal Kazuo Matsui to the Rangers for Alfonso Soriano, sign him to a longer term deal, and move Reyes and his brittle legs back to SS.
Abraham
Matsui has a no-trade. He's also here for marketing reasons as well as baseball reasons Beyond that, I think Soriano is a disaster waiting to happen. Teams have found his holes and he doesn't work hard enough to compensate.
Hoch
Extremely unlikely. I think Mets fans will be very happy with what they'll get from Kaz, and Soriano will soon be forgotten by Mets fans (as soon as the papers stop beating the drum for that trade).
Marchman
About as likely as Matsui being traded for me, and would make about as much sense. The thing to do is to swap out Reyes and Matsui at some point.
Pappas
Very unlikely, and not a good move. Soriano's value has peaked, and unless
he learns plate discipline it could be an ugly slide.
Tsunoda
It's not possible and it wouldn't make sense. I was never a big proponent of moving Reyes. But the kid needs stability. They shouldn't move him again. Soriano isn't the right guy for the Mets, anyway.
Norm from The Shea Hot Corner
Matsui for Soriano - who the hell is asking these crazy questions? Moving Reyes to second base was dumb, risky, and extremely short sighted. Just about any move that would put Reyes back at short would make me happy. You move a player of Reyes’ ability and potential from short to second for an elite shortstop; an A-Rod or Nomar. You don’t move him for Kazuo Matsui. I think Tim hit the nail on the head – Matsui should be at second not Reyes.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Completely unlikely, not happening. Does it make sense? How much is Soriano's deal worth? Matsui is getting about 7 a year, but Soriano might eclipse ten. He has immense value at second base and we can help Reyes a little but moving him back to short. The defense will be hurt by this move, but Soriano offensive value could probably cancel that out. This would be a risky move by the Mets (Soriano's lack of discipline, shaky defense and flyball tendencies) and one I would not be in favor of, but it could make some sense.
Is Tom Glavine done?
Abraham
Nah, Glavine was victimized by a bad team and a worse defense in 2003. Peterson will be good for him. He'll go 15-11, something like that. If Senator Al wasn't done last year, neither is Glavine.
Hoch
No. I wouldn't guarantee he'll be better than 9-14, but I can't guarantee he'll be worse. Having Mike Cameron running into the gaps will help both his ERA and his ego.
Marchman
No. He's not a Cy Young candidate anymore, but he can still help a team. Why is everyone ready to send him out to the glue factory just because he's not posting 3.00 ERAs anymore?
Pappas
No. He's got to be ecstatic about the newly upgraded defense, too...
Tsunoda
I don't know if I'd say done, but he's certainly got people looking in the oven to see if the pop-up bird watcher has popped yet. Glavine never had "stuff". If they give him the pitch which isn't a strike, he can still pitch. If not, he can't. I think it hurt him last year that the Mets were weak defensively at first and in right field. Against those weaknesses a smart hitter would wait for something on the outer half he could take the other way. Glavine lives out there. It's a bad mix. That will probably repeat as a problem this year.
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
Opening Day should go a long way toward letting us know, but I'm not convinced. I still hold out some hope that he can learn to pitch both at pitcher-friendly Shea Stadium and against a depleted Atlanta lineup.
Who do you see starting in right field for the Mets in 2005?
Abraham
You'd like to say it would be Carlos Beltran or Magglio Ordonez but if Garcia is reasonably good I think they'll keep him because he is cheap and use their money on pitching. Jeff Duncan has gotten a lot stronger and has a lot of game. I could see the Mets moving Cliff to right and using Duncan in left perhaps. I'd like to see them try Victor Diaz as an outfielder, too. But if I had to guess I'd say Garcia.
Hoch
Not Karim Garcia or Shane Spencer.
Marchman
Mike Cameron.
Pappas
Someone not currently in the system. How about prying loose one of Minnesota's dozen or so young OFs?
Tsunoda
I would like them trade a veteran guy (e.g., Trachsel, Weathers) in a package deal for a guy like Cuddyer or Restovich from the Twins, or Gabe Gross from the Blue Jays, or Terrmel Sledge from the Expos, or Franklin Gutierrez from the Dodgers. A young kid who can grow with the Reyes/Wright/Kazmir grouping. If they're not going to trade a veteran for a real prospect, I'd like to see them take a flier on a guy like Pittsburgh's JJ Davis or the Reds' Wily Mo Pena who might have to clear waivers towards the end of spring, but are young and have some upside.
Kaley from Flushing Local
Right now I'd have to guess Victor Diaz. I think it's the most likely of the current realistic possibilities. If it's not Diaz, it will have to be someone who is not currently in the organization. And if Duquette isn't willing to trade our pitching gems, they'll have to sign a free agent. I'd love to see the Mets go after Carlos Beltran in the off season, but I think they'd have a hard time convincing him to move to RF. Magglio Ordonez will also be a free agent, but he's too old to be worth investing a lot of money in. So, given that, I'm guessing Diaz.
Is Braden Looper the right man for the Mets closer job?
Abraham
Yeah, for now he is. He's cheap, has upside (especially with Peterson around) and he could easily convert to set-up if Yates, Moreno or Ring becomes a closer.
Hoch
Looper hasn't really impressed me this spring, and I wonder if he's got what it takes to handle the pressure of New York. Here's a guy who cracked because Jack McKeon said that he wasn't as tough a competitor as Armando Benitez. The reviews on him haven't been splendid, but I believe he can be effective in New York.
Marchman
Yes. He's a generic decent reliever; as long as clubs are going to use conventional bullpen patterns I'd prefer to see guys like Looper soaking up easy saves while better pitchers labor in the 7th and 8th innings of close games.
Pappas
Not for the money he's being paid. "Closer" as a job is greatly overrated, especially for a team that's not likely to contend.
Tsunoda
He's no Armando Benitez. That applies whether you see Benitez as a guy who blew big games, or as one of the best closers in baseball the last 4 years. He's got a good arm. We'll see how he plays out. I think he'll get tagged with his share of blown saves. We'll see how the fans accept him.
Avkash from The Raindrops
No, but really, is anyone the right man for the Mets closer job? Should a last place team in the midst of rebuilding even have a closing job? Of course not, but instead of using the roster spot to evaluate players already in the system, and possibly even inflate the trade value of a dime a dozen pitcher, the Mets have taken the more expensive and short sighted option. But hey, it makes Art Howe and the assistant GMs feel warm and fuzzy, and when trying to build a contender, that's what really matters. Has it been long enough that we can look at Armando Benitez's Mets career objectively? How long before we realize the best Mets relief pitcher in recent memory is no longer among us, and that we were happy to see him go because of the necessary evils of a role defined by a meaningless stat, instead of his actual performance. Remember the chances of Cedeno winning a gold glove? It's about as likely as Looper outperforming Benitez in 2004.
Who is the current leader in the Mets fifth starter race? Who should get the job?
Abraham
I think Roberts is the leader and should get the job. Heilman needs to toughen up physically and mentally and Erickson has lost his velocity.
Hoch
Grant Roberts has been pitching really well this spring, and he's guaranteed to make the team since he's out of options. Aaron Heilman could use some more work at Triple-A, especially on mechanics, and neither Scott Erickson or James Baldwin have been especially impressive.
Marchman
Heilman will and should get every chance to grab the role.
Pappas
No idea who IS. I'd give the job to Roberts and let Heilman start the year in AAA.
Tsunoda
I think Heilman and Roberts have both earned it, but Roberts will probably get it. Heilman will probably be sent to Norfolk so he can pitch every fifth day. Roberts being out of options and experienced with a bullpen role makes him the savvy pick because the Mets only have 9 starts penciled for the fifth starter through June 6th. If it was me, I'd trade Trachsel for the aforementioned outfielder, and keep both Heilman and Roberts in the rotation, with Erickson and Baldwin in reserve and Yates back in AAA. I don't think the Mets will do that, but that's what I would do.
Norm from The Shea Hot Corner
From the outside looking in, it seems like it’s Scott Erickson’s job to lose, which is unfortunate. When Erickson was signed to a no risk minor league deal and invited to camp to “push the kids,” I was all for it. Now that it seems the Mets are seriously considering giving him the job over home grown Major League ready kids, I think it was a big mistake. My pick? Tyler Yates. Why? One word: heat.
What is the single, best decision Jim Duquette has made in his short tenure as Mets GM? What is the single, worst decision Duquette has made thus far?
Abraham
Best decision was clearly trading Burnitz to the Dodgers for J. Diaz, V. Diaz and K. Strayhorn. That is followed closely getting Peterson as pitching coach. Worst decision? I think moving Reyes was a big mistake. He has a once-in-a-decade arm and unreal lateral quickness. I think Matsui could have been landed anyway and told to play second but the Mets panicked and gave him everything he wanted. Matsui is a fine shortstop but playing Reyes at second is like using a Jag to go around the block.
Hoch
I think it's too early to call yet. The trades for young prospects last season were a step in the right direction, but the jury's still out, especially with guys like Royce Ring having injury problems.
Marchman
The best thing the Mets have done since Duquette took the baton was hiring Rick Peterson. He hasn't made any really bad moves as far as I'm concerned - I understand why people fret over the bench or right field, but these are marginal moves that no one should care about right now. I'm not sure how much power Duquette had over last year's draft but picking Lastings Milledge was pretty goofy, all things told.
Pappas
Best: Not trading prospects for veterans. Worst: The festering sore in right field.
Tsunoda
Hard to tell 150 days into his tenure, but: Best decision: Doing all his team building without losing a draft pick or a top prospect. Worst decision: Building his bench by resigning McEwing, Timo, and Zeile and subsequently leaving the Mets with obvious holes on the bench. No power, one lefty stick, no backup shortstop, etc. Resigning Franco was a close second.
Eric from SaberMets
I don’t know whether it was his decision or not, but bringing Rick Peterson in as pitching coach from Oakland will stand to be one of the five best acquisitions in the history of this franchise. Allowing Marco Scutaro to get scooped up by Oakland was a pretty bad move. Not taking Adrian Gonzalez from Florida for Armando Benitez last season and opting for Jason Anderson, etc. was also pretty bad.
Doug, a quick follow-up to the "wort decision" question. The last two years the Mets finished last in their division while playing in a huge market, with large revenue, and with payrolls among MLB's highest. How much of their poor record the last two years do you chalk up to poor management and how much do you attribute to just plain old bad luck?
Pappas
Mostly poor management. The Mets kept signing old, expensive free agents who
cost them draft picks and tied up payroll for years to come. Now they're at least
holding onto their best prospects -- a promising sign for the future.
Congratulations, you made it to the lightning round. I'm going to say a name or phrase and you tell me the first thing that comes to mind:
Art Howe
Abraham
"We battled."
Hoch
Nice guy. Not a great interview, but very warm.
Marchman
What a nice man. I don't mean that in a condescending way; he's just really nice.
Tsunoda
“We battled.”
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
His presence allowed the Mets to get Rick Peterson, so there's something to be said for that.
Shea Stadium's 2004 gold ticket package
Abraham
Poorly timed but inevitable
Hoch
Confusing.
Marchman
You should get tickets to a strip bar with that.
Tsunoda
Doesn't bother me. I look at is as being cheaper for games against bad teams, as opposed to costing more against good teams, so I like it.
Mike from East Coast Agony
Shea Stadium is not the Chocolate Factory, to Mo’s chagrin
Jeff Wilpon (Mets owner’s son)
Abraham
Thanks, Dad
Hoch
Hard worker. Really committed to this idea of family ownership.
Marchman
Hmm, so Duquette's an old school kind of guy, and Fred is a rich old guy who pals around with Bud Selig. Just who is the one getting Peterson out of his contract and giving him all the power he wants, hiring a statistical analyst, etc.? Mrs. Wilpon? Mr. Met?
Tsunoda
I think people have decided they don't like him for no apparent reason. I like him. I think he cares. I think he's a baseball fan. I think he's good at his job. I've seen him walk around the complex talking to minor leaguers calling them all by name without a roster in his hand. How many owners can do that?
Avkash from The Raindrops
John Franco's kids will always have employment.
Mr. Met
Abraham
Scary
Hoch
Scares young children.
Marchman
I love Mr. Mets unreservedly because he has brought joy and happiness to me since I was a small child. My wife, a lifelong Cubs fan, finds this disturbing.
Tsunoda
I think the obvious head swelling is an indication of his relationship with BALCO. Do they drug test mascots? They're huge now. They used to be little speedy guys like the chicken. Look at them now. Where's Congress on this one, eh? Where are they?!?!?
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Was there no one better to raise the pennant flag from 2000?
Grade B maple syrup, distilled apple vinegar, cayenne pepper, flax seed and water (what Mike Piazza’s personal “yogi” has him drinking)
Abraham
OK, so wouldn't Gade A maple syrup make it even better? That's all I'm saying.
Hoch
Ingredients to a genius marketing idea, if someone out there mass-produces Piazza's Potion and sells it outside Shea.
Marchman
Good Lord. Where do ballplayers find these people?
Tsunoda
You figure Mike would spring for the grade A maple syrup.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Ammonium A D
Karim Garcia
Abraham
Not as bad a guy as it looks.
Hoch
Big Apple Pizza.
Marchman
Garcia needs to stop beating people up and urinating in public. He's not really a very good player, and all things told people prefer their scrubs deferential and modest.
Tsunoda
How often do you see a team bring in a guy who is defending himself on an assault charge as a "character guy"?
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Piss-gate
Lisa Guerrero (Scott Erickson’s wife and Monday Night Football diva)
Abraham
She's no Bonnie Bernstein.
Hoch
The best part about Scott Erickson potentially making the 25-man roster.
Marchman
I still have no idea why she's famous, but I Googled her. Good Lord.
Tsunoda
I know this is supposed to be a funny one liner. But seriously, she sits in the rain to watch Erickson pitch in a minor league camp game. She endures every male loser walking up to her to make conversation with grace and politeness. She's been perfectly pleasant to everyone, and she reads smart books when Erickson's not pitching. It's mind boggling to me that Erickson would want any part of six months on the road.
Kaley from Flushing Local
What conditioner does she use?
On the “we’re not totally rebuilding” wing of chateau de blue and orange, aging, declining, expensive, and injury prone “stars” still have jobs in Flushing. The Mets were even active on the free agent market this off-season. On the rebuilding wing of the Mets’ house, Duquette has trimmed away quite a bit of the rotten exterior in dumping several bloated, under performing contracts and replenishing the farm system with young, cheap talent. Duquette has refused to make any deal that requires him to give up future draft picks and has fought the temptation to give in to the NY media’s loud and constant plight for the Mets to trade top young players and prospects like Jose Reyes and Scott Kazmir for more established players.
While the current state of the Mets’ house might be in a bit of disarray, this is a necessary present evil of implementing “the plan” of pouring a solid foundation for the future. The product of Duquette’s partially implemented plan will take the field in a few short weeks. The 2004 version of the Mets will be a potpourri of veterans and youngsters, which most commentators agree will stink. But if this team stays healthy and if the players produce to their abilities, the 2004 Mets might surprise some people. That’s a lot of “ifs” and one too many “mights.” I was planning on writing an article addressing some of these questions but quite frankly, that’s a lot of work. So I called in back-up. I have asked an All Star panel of journalists, analysts and commentators to provide their insight into some of these “ifs” and “mights.” They are:
Pete Abraham. Pete is a writer for The Journal News and is the “Official Friend of the NY Baseball Blogger” after writing his article A Growing Sports Voice, detailing a little of the history and current state of the NY baseball blogging community. Pete’s daily Mets coverage is a refreshing departure from the form over substance pieces riddling the sports pages of many NY newspapers.
Bryan Hoch. Bryan jumped on the Mets scene when he created Metsonline.net as a high school freshmen, which was the hot spot to learn about the Mets on the Internet from 1996 to 2002. Bryan parlayed that into a journalism career as a freelance baseball writer. He maintains the Always Amazin' Weblog on NJ.com and is a contributing writer to New York Mets Inside Pitch, The Wave of Long Island and FOXSports.com.
Tim Marchman. Tim is the fiction critic of the New York Sun, for which he also writes regularly on baseball. Tim’s work has appeared in local and national publications including the Weekly Standard, National Review, and the New York Press. Tim is also the Senior Editor for the New Partisan, an urban-based web journal of politics, culture, the arts, and sports. Alex Belth of Bronx Banter has called Tim “one of the brightest young baseball writers in the country.”
Doug Pappas. Doug is the Chairman of The Society for American Baseball Research (SABR) Business of Baseball Committee and writes regularly for Baseball Prospectus. Doug also maintains the Business of Baseball Pages and he has recently created his own weblog; Doug’s Business of Baseball Weblog. While Doug usually comments on what is going on off the field, as you’ll see he doesn’t hesitate to give his two cents on things a little closer to the field of play, especially when it concerns the Mets.
Ed Tsunoda. Ed is the creator and administrator of NYFansites.com, one of the largest and most popular fan websites for any baseball team on the Internet. Ed’s got his thumb on the pulse of the Mets organization, particularly the goings on in Port St. Lucie. Ed is also the best source available for information on Mets minor league prospects. If you want the minor league stats and a bevy of photos of Scott Kazmir or David Wright, you go to Ed.
Before I go any further I would like to thank Pete, Bryan, Tim, Doug and Ed for taking the time to stop by my little back-alley corner of the blogoshphere for a chat. In addition to these professionals, I also enlisted the services of some of the most knowledgeable and passionate Mets fans around; my fellow Mets bloggers, who I also want to thank for their quick and thoughtful responses. In today’s Part I of this panel discussion you will get a steady diet of responses to questions from Pete, Bryan, Tim, Doug and Ed and a sprinkling of Mets blogger responses as well. And what the hell, since this is my blog I might chime in every so often too. I will post Part II in a few days, which will be an all Mets blogger bonanza. Okay, I’ll quit babbling so we can dive into the questions and answers.
Enjoy,
-Norm @ The Shea Hot Corner
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What do Jim Duquette and Fred Wilpon mean when they say that their goal, which they expect to meet, is for the Mets to be playing "meaningful games in September"? If you can figure out what this means, do you agree that the Mets will indeed be playing these mysterious meaningful September games?
Abraham
Duquette is a realist and knows that only a handful of 90-loss teams in baseball history have made the playoffs a year later. He has sold the front office on the idea that it will be enough for the Mets to simply be playing for something in September. That could be .500 or to stay mathematically alive into the final week of the season. After two years of being in dead last, the Mets want their late-season games to mean something. I'm not sure if I agree that will be the case. If Reyes is healthy, I think every game is meaningful because you can watch a special player.
Hoch
The goal, and I think it's a very good one, is to not have Shea Stadium resembling a graveyard for those late September series. Nobody's expecting the Mets to seriously compete this year for a pennant, but it'd be nice to see some excitement in the ballpark -- maybe they'll be shooting for .500, or disrupting a wild card race in some way. They've got series with the Braves and the Phillies that month, so things could actually be interesting out there.
Marchman
Assuming Piazza and Floyd can hold up, I think they'll be playing meaningful games well into September. I'd guess they take "meaningful" as something along the lines of "within 5 games of the wild card leader," but your guess is as good as mine.
Pappas
I assume they mean that the Mets will contend for the division or the wild card into September. I don't think they will. I believe their realistic upside for 2004 is a .500 record.
Tsunoda
You'd have to ask them what they mean. :) I've also heard them say that the playoffs aren't "realistic". I think it's intentionally oblique. I think it's broad meaning is they won't be mathematically eliminated before September. In which case, yeah, it's feasible they could put off elimination until the 5th or 10th of September.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
The Duke and Freddy Skill Sets are hoping the teams is in contention for either a Wild Card berth or (PLEASE GOD) a division title. The Duke wants this to show he can turn the franchise around with his "plan" and Freddy just doesn't want to sell $5.00 upper deck tickets for the second year in a row. That may be a bit harsh, I think Freddy really wants to win desperately but is a bit confused on how to do it. After the Phillies, Cubs, and Astros what teams in the NL are really that much better than the Mets?
Which Mike Piazza can we expect in 2004: the Piazza who was hitting .333 in 2003 before he went down with a groin injury or the Piazza that came back later that year but did not hit a HR in the final month of the season?
Abraham
Piazza was still hurt when he came back last season. Now healthy, he is raking in spring training. His first home run on March 23 was a laser beam. If he is healthy and if he gets an extra 50-100 at-bats by playing first base a few times, he is capable of .315-35-110.
Hoch
Mike has looked great this spring; last night in Viera (Mar. 23) he hit two homers and had five RBI beating up on the Expos. He hasn't been exactly fluid around first base, but I see no problems with his swing; he looks strong and lean, and I think you'll see that first Piazza.
Marchman
The latter. He's a 35-year old catcher.
Pappas
Piazza's healthier, but also a year older. Look for 90% of the early-2003 Piazza.
Tsunoda
I don't think either is a reasonable expectation. We're going to see one of the greatest hitters of our time in the twilight of his career. I don't think he'll still be great, nor do I think his post-injury performance is reflective of what we should expect this year. It's probably reasonable to expect on going injuries. Something along the lines of .280/.350/.500 maybe 20+ HRs and 85+ RBI? Hopefully 400-500 ABs.
Alan from Mets Analyst
Of course, Mike Piazza will not hit .333, but he will hit some home runs, so the answer is neither. I think .290 with 35 homers is a realistic hope for Piazza, probably somewhat on the optimistic side. He could, however, do better or worse. That's the beauty of the game. I would advise any Mets fan watching Piazza, though, to remember they are watching the greatest player who has ever spent part of his prime as a Met, a man who carried the team on his shoulders through several winning seasons, and the greatest hitting catcher of all time. He still hits the ball incredibly hard -- his hits really look different. So enjoy and appreciate him.
Norm from The Shea Hot Corner
Since Piazza is one of my favorite Mets, I just thought I’d jump in here and point out that an aging Piazza in his decline is still more valuable offensively than just about any other catcher in baseball. Piazza’s last full season relatively injury free was 2002, one of Piazza’s worst seasons, where he played catcher just about every day, had absolutely no protection in the line-up, and played half his games in one of the most severe pitchers’ parks in baseball. He still hit 33 HRs with a .286/.377/.483 line. Not too shabby.
Offensively, will Kazuo Matsui be closer to Rey Ordonez or Ricky Henderson?
Abraham
Rey Ordonez? That's an insult. It may take Kaz a month or two to adjust but he can handle the bat and he's a great base-runner. He also has better pop than you would expect. He has left-handed power.
Hoch
Can I write in Edgar Renteria? You won't see much power from Matsui, but you'll see speed and extra-base slashes into the gaps, so I guess I'd say Henderson. He might strike out like Ordonez, though, if he tries to swing for the fences as they say he did his last couple of years in Japan.
Marchman
Closer to Rickey, though that's a pretty tough standard. I think he'll be a league-average hitter with good speed and defense; that's plenty valuable. Plus, he's got style, which the homely Mets could certainly use.
Pappas
That's an awfully broad range: from cancer on the offense to first ballot Hall of Famer. Henderson without the walks and with fewer stolen bases.
Tsunoda
Well, not Rickey Henderson. Apparently the "you don't walk off the island" saying applies to the Pacific Rim as well. He's an exciting player. He'll hit some, He'll run like the wind. He'll make amazing stops. He's a pretty smart player. Jimmy Rollins or Christan Guzman is a better compare.
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
Something in the middle is more likely. I think The Roto Times' projected stats for him are all slightly higher than what should be expected. With apologies to all the Buddy Harrelson and Kevin Elster fans out there, it won't be too difficult for Matsui to become the best-hitting Mets shortstop of all time. And that's exactly what I expect him to do.
Are Mets fans justified in being optimistic about the future with the likes of Scott Kazmir and David Wright coming through the pipeline?
Abraham
David Wright is the real deal in my opinion. Hits, runs, fields, the whole package. Too good to be true as a kid as well. Kazmir is impossible to tell at this point because he is so young. They really baby him and I suspect that is because he potential elbow issues. My gut feeling on him is that he will not be as good as hoped. I think he's too frail physically.
Hoch
Yes. You'd be hard-pressed to find any scout, GM or talent evaluator who doesn't rave about these two. If they stay healthy, they will play a major part in the future of this team.
Marchman
Sure. Those two are fantastic prospects, and the Mets have some depth behind them. I'd be a lot more excited about Wright, though, until Kazmir proves he's a starter.
Pappas
Yes. The Mets have several impact players in the pipeline, and have been smart enough not to trade them away for more short-term fixes.
Tsunoda
Hell yeah. Those kids make me jump up and down with my fists thrust in the air like a 10 year old at a World Series game, just watching them in BP. A lot of Met fans are disenchanted with the minor leagues because of Generation K. A lot of hype and not a lot of production. But if you're even 25-30 years old and you remember what it was like when Mookie, Lenny, Wally, El Sid, Darling, Darryl, and Doc were the core of the team...how could you not want to rebuild around these kids? They are the goods.
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Absolutely. A couple years ago the farm system was a disaster. Now we're graded as a solid B or B+ by most the scouting services and publications. That's a huge upgrade. Kazmir has been dominant in his pro career, and might have the highest ceiling of any pitching prospect in the game. Wright draws comps to Scott Rolen every day. Aaron Baldiris has been phenomenal. Victor Diaz has been a monster with the bat. Matt Peterson has progressed, and could be in AAA by the end of the season. The list goes on. There's a lot of talent in the system, and with some good management, we could good for a very long time.
Will Cliff Floyd accumulate at least 500 at bats in a season ever again?
Abraham
I hope so. Cliff is a really good guy and cares about performing well. I'd like to see what he could do spending an entire season healthy and with some lineup protection.
Hoch
Injuries are so unpredictable, and you know Cliff's track record. He deserves it; let's see if he can do stay healthy.
Marchman
I don't think he should. The best way to use him is to accept his fragility and spot him. A lot of clubs have got a lot out of Ellis Burks adhering to the simple principle that it's better to work with a man's limitations than to pretend they don't exist.
Pappas
Probably not, but 130 games of Floyd will still be the best-hitting OF the Mets have. Cameron's a better overall player, though, because he's a defensive god.
Tsunoda
I hope so. I think he will. He's a gamer. They should've shut him down last June and given him more time to come back. It bugs me that he limped into August last year pointlessly, and now he's still a little tender this spring.
Mike from East Coast Agony
I doubt it. Cornelius is a very skilled player, but the Mets need to rest him and accept that he will miss some time. Thankfully, we’ve planned accordingly and assembled a great bench. Shit.
How unlikely is the following trade proposal and regardless of its likelihood, would it make sense? The Mets deal Kazuo Matsui to the Rangers for Alfonso Soriano, sign him to a longer term deal, and move Reyes and his brittle legs back to SS.
Abraham
Matsui has a no-trade. He's also here for marketing reasons as well as baseball reasons Beyond that, I think Soriano is a disaster waiting to happen. Teams have found his holes and he doesn't work hard enough to compensate.
Hoch
Extremely unlikely. I think Mets fans will be very happy with what they'll get from Kaz, and Soriano will soon be forgotten by Mets fans (as soon as the papers stop beating the drum for that trade).
Marchman
About as likely as Matsui being traded for me, and would make about as much sense. The thing to do is to swap out Reyes and Matsui at some point.
Pappas
Very unlikely, and not a good move. Soriano's value has peaked, and unless
he learns plate discipline it could be an ugly slide.
Tsunoda
It's not possible and it wouldn't make sense. I was never a big proponent of moving Reyes. But the kid needs stability. They shouldn't move him again. Soriano isn't the right guy for the Mets, anyway.
Norm from The Shea Hot Corner
Matsui for Soriano - who the hell is asking these crazy questions? Moving Reyes to second base was dumb, risky, and extremely short sighted. Just about any move that would put Reyes back at short would make me happy. You move a player of Reyes’ ability and potential from short to second for an elite shortstop; an A-Rod or Nomar. You don’t move him for Kazuo Matsui. I think Tim hit the nail on the head – Matsui should be at second not Reyes.
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Completely unlikely, not happening. Does it make sense? How much is Soriano's deal worth? Matsui is getting about 7 a year, but Soriano might eclipse ten. He has immense value at second base and we can help Reyes a little but moving him back to short. The defense will be hurt by this move, but Soriano offensive value could probably cancel that out. This would be a risky move by the Mets (Soriano's lack of discipline, shaky defense and flyball tendencies) and one I would not be in favor of, but it could make some sense.
Is Tom Glavine done?
Abraham
Nah, Glavine was victimized by a bad team and a worse defense in 2003. Peterson will be good for him. He'll go 15-11, something like that. If Senator Al wasn't done last year, neither is Glavine.
Hoch
No. I wouldn't guarantee he'll be better than 9-14, but I can't guarantee he'll be worse. Having Mike Cameron running into the gaps will help both his ERA and his ego.
Marchman
No. He's not a Cy Young candidate anymore, but he can still help a team. Why is everyone ready to send him out to the glue factory just because he's not posting 3.00 ERAs anymore?
Pappas
No. He's got to be ecstatic about the newly upgraded defense, too...
Tsunoda
I don't know if I'd say done, but he's certainly got people looking in the oven to see if the pop-up bird watcher has popped yet. Glavine never had "stuff". If they give him the pitch which isn't a strike, he can still pitch. If not, he can't. I think it hurt him last year that the Mets were weak defensively at first and in right field. Against those weaknesses a smart hitter would wait for something on the outer half he could take the other way. Glavine lives out there. It's a bad mix. That will probably repeat as a problem this year.
Joe from Betty’s NGCCSPH
Opening Day should go a long way toward letting us know, but I'm not convinced. I still hold out some hope that he can learn to pitch both at pitcher-friendly Shea Stadium and against a depleted Atlanta lineup.
Who do you see starting in right field for the Mets in 2005?
Abraham
You'd like to say it would be Carlos Beltran or Magglio Ordonez but if Garcia is reasonably good I think they'll keep him because he is cheap and use their money on pitching. Jeff Duncan has gotten a lot stronger and has a lot of game. I could see the Mets moving Cliff to right and using Duncan in left perhaps. I'd like to see them try Victor Diaz as an outfielder, too. But if I had to guess I'd say Garcia.
Hoch
Not Karim Garcia or Shane Spencer.
Marchman
Mike Cameron.
Pappas
Someone not currently in the system. How about prying loose one of Minnesota's dozen or so young OFs?
Tsunoda
I would like them trade a veteran guy (e.g., Trachsel, Weathers) in a package deal for a guy like Cuddyer or Restovich from the Twins, or Gabe Gross from the Blue Jays, or Terrmel Sledge from the Expos, or Franklin Gutierrez from the Dodgers. A young kid who can grow with the Reyes/Wright/Kazmir grouping. If they're not going to trade a veteran for a real prospect, I'd like to see them take a flier on a guy like Pittsburgh's JJ Davis or the Reds' Wily Mo Pena who might have to clear waivers towards the end of spring, but are young and have some upside.
Kaley from Flushing Local
Right now I'd have to guess Victor Diaz. I think it's the most likely of the current realistic possibilities. If it's not Diaz, it will have to be someone who is not currently in the organization. And if Duquette isn't willing to trade our pitching gems, they'll have to sign a free agent. I'd love to see the Mets go after Carlos Beltran in the off season, but I think they'd have a hard time convincing him to move to RF. Magglio Ordonez will also be a free agent, but he's too old to be worth investing a lot of money in. So, given that, I'm guessing Diaz.
Is Braden Looper the right man for the Mets closer job?
Abraham
Yeah, for now he is. He's cheap, has upside (especially with Peterson around) and he could easily convert to set-up if Yates, Moreno or Ring becomes a closer.
Hoch
Looper hasn't really impressed me this spring, and I wonder if he's got what it takes to handle the pressure of New York. Here's a guy who cracked because Jack McKeon said that he wasn't as tough a competitor as Armando Benitez. The reviews on him haven't been splendid, but I believe he can be effective in New York.
Marchman
Yes. He's a generic decent reliever; as long as clubs are going to use conventional bullpen patterns I'd prefer to see guys like Looper soaking up easy saves while better pitchers labor in the 7th and 8th innings of close games.
Pappas
Not for the money he's being paid. "Closer" as a job is greatly overrated, especially for a team that's not likely to contend.
Tsunoda
He's no Armando Benitez. That applies whether you see Benitez as a guy who blew big games, or as one of the best closers in baseball the last 4 years. He's got a good arm. We'll see how he plays out. I think he'll get tagged with his share of blown saves. We'll see how the fans accept him.
Avkash from The Raindrops
No, but really, is anyone the right man for the Mets closer job? Should a last place team in the midst of rebuilding even have a closing job? Of course not, but instead of using the roster spot to evaluate players already in the system, and possibly even inflate the trade value of a dime a dozen pitcher, the Mets have taken the more expensive and short sighted option. But hey, it makes Art Howe and the assistant GMs feel warm and fuzzy, and when trying to build a contender, that's what really matters. Has it been long enough that we can look at Armando Benitez's Mets career objectively? How long before we realize the best Mets relief pitcher in recent memory is no longer among us, and that we were happy to see him go because of the necessary evils of a role defined by a meaningless stat, instead of his actual performance. Remember the chances of Cedeno winning a gold glove? It's about as likely as Looper outperforming Benitez in 2004.
Who is the current leader in the Mets fifth starter race? Who should get the job?
Abraham
I think Roberts is the leader and should get the job. Heilman needs to toughen up physically and mentally and Erickson has lost his velocity.
Hoch
Grant Roberts has been pitching really well this spring, and he's guaranteed to make the team since he's out of options. Aaron Heilman could use some more work at Triple-A, especially on mechanics, and neither Scott Erickson or James Baldwin have been especially impressive.
Marchman
Heilman will and should get every chance to grab the role.
Pappas
No idea who IS. I'd give the job to Roberts and let Heilman start the year in AAA.
Tsunoda
I think Heilman and Roberts have both earned it, but Roberts will probably get it. Heilman will probably be sent to Norfolk so he can pitch every fifth day. Roberts being out of options and experienced with a bullpen role makes him the savvy pick because the Mets only have 9 starts penciled for the fifth starter through June 6th. If it was me, I'd trade Trachsel for the aforementioned outfielder, and keep both Heilman and Roberts in the rotation, with Erickson and Baldwin in reserve and Yates back in AAA. I don't think the Mets will do that, but that's what I would do.
Norm from The Shea Hot Corner
From the outside looking in, it seems like it’s Scott Erickson’s job to lose, which is unfortunate. When Erickson was signed to a no risk minor league deal and invited to camp to “push the kids,” I was all for it. Now that it seems the Mets are seriously considering giving him the job over home grown Major League ready kids, I think it was a big mistake. My pick? Tyler Yates. Why? One word: heat.
What is the single, best decision Jim Duquette has made in his short tenure as Mets GM? What is the single, worst decision Duquette has made thus far?
Abraham
Best decision was clearly trading Burnitz to the Dodgers for J. Diaz, V. Diaz and K. Strayhorn. That is followed closely getting Peterson as pitching coach. Worst decision? I think moving Reyes was a big mistake. He has a once-in-a-decade arm and unreal lateral quickness. I think Matsui could have been landed anyway and told to play second but the Mets panicked and gave him everything he wanted. Matsui is a fine shortstop but playing Reyes at second is like using a Jag to go around the block.
Hoch
I think it's too early to call yet. The trades for young prospects last season were a step in the right direction, but the jury's still out, especially with guys like Royce Ring having injury problems.
Marchman
The best thing the Mets have done since Duquette took the baton was hiring Rick Peterson. He hasn't made any really bad moves as far as I'm concerned - I understand why people fret over the bench or right field, but these are marginal moves that no one should care about right now. I'm not sure how much power Duquette had over last year's draft but picking Lastings Milledge was pretty goofy, all things told.
Pappas
Best: Not trading prospects for veterans. Worst: The festering sore in right field.
Tsunoda
Hard to tell 150 days into his tenure, but: Best decision: Doing all his team building without losing a draft pick or a top prospect. Worst decision: Building his bench by resigning McEwing, Timo, and Zeile and subsequently leaving the Mets with obvious holes on the bench. No power, one lefty stick, no backup shortstop, etc. Resigning Franco was a close second.
Eric from SaberMets
I don’t know whether it was his decision or not, but bringing Rick Peterson in as pitching coach from Oakland will stand to be one of the five best acquisitions in the history of this franchise. Allowing Marco Scutaro to get scooped up by Oakland was a pretty bad move. Not taking Adrian Gonzalez from Florida for Armando Benitez last season and opting for Jason Anderson, etc. was also pretty bad.
Doug, a quick follow-up to the "wort decision" question. The last two years the Mets finished last in their division while playing in a huge market, with large revenue, and with payrolls among MLB's highest. How much of their poor record the last two years do you chalk up to poor management and how much do you attribute to just plain old bad luck?
Pappas
Mostly poor management. The Mets kept signing old, expensive free agents who
cost them draft picks and tied up payroll for years to come. Now they're at least
holding onto their best prospects -- a promising sign for the future.
Congratulations, you made it to the lightning round. I'm going to say a name or phrase and you tell me the first thing that comes to mind:
Art Howe
Abraham
"We battled."
Hoch
Nice guy. Not a great interview, but very warm.
Marchman
What a nice man. I don't mean that in a condescending way; he's just really nice.
Tsunoda
“We battled.”
Vinny from Yankees, Mets & the Rest
His presence allowed the Mets to get Rick Peterson, so there's something to be said for that.
Shea Stadium's 2004 gold ticket package
Abraham
Poorly timed but inevitable
Hoch
Confusing.
Marchman
You should get tickets to a strip bar with that.
Tsunoda
Doesn't bother me. I look at is as being cheaper for games against bad teams, as opposed to costing more against good teams, so I like it.
Mike from East Coast Agony
Shea Stadium is not the Chocolate Factory, to Mo’s chagrin
Jeff Wilpon (Mets owner’s son)
Abraham
Thanks, Dad
Hoch
Hard worker. Really committed to this idea of family ownership.
Marchman
Hmm, so Duquette's an old school kind of guy, and Fred is a rich old guy who pals around with Bud Selig. Just who is the one getting Peterson out of his contract and giving him all the power he wants, hiring a statistical analyst, etc.? Mrs. Wilpon? Mr. Met?
Tsunoda
I think people have decided they don't like him for no apparent reason. I like him. I think he cares. I think he's a baseball fan. I think he's good at his job. I've seen him walk around the complex talking to minor leaguers calling them all by name without a roster in his hand. How many owners can do that?
Avkash from The Raindrops
John Franco's kids will always have employment.
Mr. Met
Abraham
Scary
Hoch
Scares young children.
Marchman
I love Mr. Mets unreservedly because he has brought joy and happiness to me since I was a small child. My wife, a lifelong Cubs fan, finds this disturbing.
Tsunoda
I think the obvious head swelling is an indication of his relationship with BALCO. Do they drug test mascots? They're huge now. They used to be little speedy guys like the chicken. Look at them now. Where's Congress on this one, eh? Where are they?!?!?
Michael from Michael’s Mets Ramblings
Was there no one better to raise the pennant flag from 2000?
Grade B maple syrup, distilled apple vinegar, cayenne pepper, flax seed and water (what Mike Piazza’s personal “yogi” has him drinking)
Abraham
OK, so wouldn't Gade A maple syrup make it even better? That's all I'm saying.
Hoch
Ingredients to a genius marketing idea, if someone out there mass-produces Piazza's Potion and sells it outside Shea.
Marchman
Good Lord. Where do ballplayers find these people?
Tsunoda
You figure Mike would spring for the grade A maple syrup.
Steve from The Eddie Kranepool Society
Ammonium A D
Karim Garcia
Abraham
Not as bad a guy as it looks.
Hoch
Big Apple Pizza.
Marchman
Garcia needs to stop beating people up and urinating in public. He's not really a very good player, and all things told people prefer their scrubs deferential and modest.
Tsunoda
How often do you see a team bring in a guy who is defending himself on an assault charge as a "character guy"?
Jeremy from Jeremy Heit’s Blog
Piss-gate
Lisa Guerrero (Scott Erickson’s wife and Monday Night Football diva)
Abraham
She's no Bonnie Bernstein.
Hoch
The best part about Scott Erickson potentially making the 25-man roster.
Marchman
I still have no idea why she's famous, but I Googled her. Good Lord.
Tsunoda
I know this is supposed to be a funny one liner. But seriously, she sits in the rain to watch Erickson pitch in a minor league camp game. She endures every male loser walking up to her to make conversation with grace and politeness. She's been perfectly pleasant to everyone, and she reads smart books when Erickson's not pitching. It's mind boggling to me that Erickson would want any part of six months on the road.
Kaley from Flushing Local
What conditioner does she use?
Saturday, March 27, 2004
Timo Time No More
Mets deal Timo Perez to the White Sox in exchange for Matt Ginter, the last sub par right handed relief pitcher not already in the Met organization. I wont lose any sleep over Timo nor will I stay up all night giddy over Ginter. One question though; who is going to be the Mets backup center fielder? Shane Spencer has gotten into more physical altercations in Port St. Lucie parking lots with pizza deliver men than he's played CF (1 to 0 if you're scoring at home). Karim Garcia can't even cover enough ground to make it to an appropriate bathroom. Despite Joe McEwing's reputation as some kind of super utility man, he is not a viable option to back up CF. So that leaves . . . . Ugh, say it aint so Duke. Pray to God Mike Cameron never gets hurt and/or Duquette has another trick up his sleeve.
Friday, March 26, 2004
Mets Round Table Discussion: Stay Tuned
I just wanted to check in and tell my loyal readers, all three of you, to stay tuned. At some point in the next few days I'll be posting Part I of a Mets round table discussion featuring a few people who actually know what they are talking about when it comes to the Mets (i.e. not me). Then a few days after that I'll be posting Part II. So don't change that channel.
Thursday, March 25, 2004
No Need for Yates to "Bump It Up"
Tyler Yates reminded Mets brass yesterday that this is more than a three horse race for the fifth starter job. While Grant Roberts imploded on the mound two nights ago against the Expos trying to "bump it up," Yates has no need to bump anything, throwing mid 90's heat with ease. Yates made quick work of an imposing Astros line-up, blanking them through five innings while scattering three hits, striking out three and walking none. Oh, and he beaned one batter for good measure. After the impressive display Art Howe said, "He just goes out and pounds the strike zone and he's not intimidated by Major League hitters. We knew he had a good arm but he's been very mature out there. He's got a good grasp of what he's trying to do." Of all the pitchers fighting for the last starting job on the Mets rotation, Yates as been as impressive or more so, posting a virtually unhittable ERA of 0.64 in 14 innings. The Hot Corner has made no secrete that Yates is my pick to get the fifth starter job. I don't have any fancy stats or complex theories backing him up but I just think a young, big, imposing, hard throwing right hander in the rotation brings a certain level of excitement. When you are parading out a staff of 1-4 pitchers lucky to brake 90 mph on the radar gun, it's a nice change of pace to send a fireballer out there every fifth day. And let's face it, this is no Rick "Wild Thing" Vaughn who can't get his heat over the plate - the guy throws strikes. With Cameron patrolling center and Shea Stadium's ability to blow potential home runs back to the field, it almost seems like a perfect fit. Give Erickson his walking papers, send Heilman to AAA to figure himself out or trade him, put Roberts in the pen and let Yates and Roberts carry their battle for the last spot in the rotation into the season. Done, done and done.
Wednesday, March 24, 2004
Grant Roberts Stock Takes a Hit
Grant Roberts seemed to be leading the pack in the race for the fifth starting spot in the Mets rotation until he got smoked last night by the Expos. Roberts started out strong, sitting down 12 of the first 14 batters he faced, the only base runners being the product of two free passes. The Mets are allowing their pitchers to open it up a bit now that its getting closer to go time and sent Roberts out in the sixth inning for the first time this spring. It proved one inning too much as it seemed clear that Roberts was out of gas, giving up four hits and four runs before being pulled. When the dust settled, Roberts went 5 1/3 innings, giving up 7 hit, 5 earned runs, walked 3, and failed to strike out a single batter. Prior to this game Roberts was lights out, posting an ERA of 1.93 in 14 innings with 16 strike outs. It seems two factors contributed to Roberts disastrous sixth inning. First, Roberts got the bad idea that he was going to use this start to "bump it up." Meaning, to up the cheddar factor on his fastball, which as been clocked at 88 mph this spring. Second, Roberts picked a bad outing to try to up his fastball as the Mets were giving him a little more room off his leash. As it turned out, the Mets just gave Roberts more rope to hang himself with. Roberts' overexertion, combined with his longest outing of the spring, might have contributed to his sixth inning implosion. Nevertheless, no one should read too much into this one bad inning as Roberts is a strong candidate, perhaps the strongest, to land the 5th starter job.
Tuesday, March 23, 2004
Fantasy Draft First Pick Conundrum
You've got mail motha f#@!er. One of the benefits of running this blog is that I have managed to fool a few people into thinking I actually know what I'm talking about. Clearly I don't but let's keep that on the down low. Steve e-mails me asking who he should take in his fantasy draft with the number one pick. He's concerned that after number one, he does not get another chance to choose until he gets back-to-back picks with the 20th and 21st overall picks. He's debating taking either Mark Prior or Alex Rodriguez first. Here's my response:
If Albert Pujols still qualifies in your league at third base, you snag him first. His value over the rest of the third basemen, even awesome players like Eric Chavez and Scott Rolen, is absurd. Pujols' lifetime averages (.334 /.412 /.613), dwarfs both Rolen's (.298/.391/.551) and Chavez's (.288/.355/.540) career highs. If Pujols is not Sorianoing his listed age, the guy is not even close to reaching his peak yet. If Pujols does not qualify at third then take a pass on him as his value over other outfielders and first basemen is not nearly as dramatic, and take A-Rod first. A-Rod's numbers will suffer a bit leaving the friendly confines of Arlington, but he'll still put up historic numbers for a shortstop, which is what he is to us in fantasyland regardless of where he's actually playing "in real life." Prior is awesome but I just feel there are so many good pitcher that you will still get a solid pitcher when your second pick comes around. Not to mention that Dusty Baker just flat out abuses his pitchers so I would not be surprised if Prior breaks down as early as the second half of this season. As it is he's already injured himself in spring training and will not be making his first start. Is it worth passing on A-Rod, Pujols or Soriano (who I think might be the fantasy MVP this year) to take Prior, when we know that several pitchers just may come out of the blue this year and put up numbers close to Prior's? Think about it. What shortstop, third basemen, or second basemen is going to come out of no where to put up A-Rod, Pujols, or Soriano-like numbers? None. Take Pujols, A-Rod, maybe even Soriano first, then look for the best pitcher available when your second pick comes. While some top tier pitchers like Prior, Pedro, Halladay and Schilling may be gone, there will still be some solid options available to you. For what it's worth, here are a few pitchers that might be available to you that I'm very high on: Johan Santana, Javier Vazquez, Branden Webb, Rich Harden, Joel Piniero, Randy Wolf, and Ben Sheets, who, sooner or later, is going to stop giving up so many dingers.
And keep in mind that in regards to your first pick, we're really debating "who do I take out on a date," Pam Anderson (minus the hepatitis) or Paris Hilton (minus the VD). They're all great picks who might give you a rash.
If Albert Pujols still qualifies in your league at third base, you snag him first. His value over the rest of the third basemen, even awesome players like Eric Chavez and Scott Rolen, is absurd. Pujols' lifetime averages (.334 /.412 /.613), dwarfs both Rolen's (.298/.391/.551) and Chavez's (.288/.355/.540) career highs. If Pujols is not Sorianoing his listed age, the guy is not even close to reaching his peak yet. If Pujols does not qualify at third then take a pass on him as his value over other outfielders and first basemen is not nearly as dramatic, and take A-Rod first. A-Rod's numbers will suffer a bit leaving the friendly confines of Arlington, but he'll still put up historic numbers for a shortstop, which is what he is to us in fantasyland regardless of where he's actually playing "in real life." Prior is awesome but I just feel there are so many good pitcher that you will still get a solid pitcher when your second pick comes around. Not to mention that Dusty Baker just flat out abuses his pitchers so I would not be surprised if Prior breaks down as early as the second half of this season. As it is he's already injured himself in spring training and will not be making his first start. Is it worth passing on A-Rod, Pujols or Soriano (who I think might be the fantasy MVP this year) to take Prior, when we know that several pitchers just may come out of the blue this year and put up numbers close to Prior's? Think about it. What shortstop, third basemen, or second basemen is going to come out of no where to put up A-Rod, Pujols, or Soriano-like numbers? None. Take Pujols, A-Rod, maybe even Soriano first, then look for the best pitcher available when your second pick comes. While some top tier pitchers like Prior, Pedro, Halladay and Schilling may be gone, there will still be some solid options available to you. For what it's worth, here are a few pitchers that might be available to you that I'm very high on: Johan Santana, Javier Vazquez, Branden Webb, Rich Harden, Joel Piniero, Randy Wolf, and Ben Sheets, who, sooner or later, is going to stop giving up so many dingers.
And keep in mind that in regards to your first pick, we're really debating "who do I take out on a date," Pam Anderson (minus the hepatitis) or Paris Hilton (minus the VD). They're all great picks who might give you a rash.
Monday, March 22, 2004
The World's Crappiest Blog Entry
We should all fee bad for Roger Cedeno. Ty Wigginton works hard. The fifth starter spot is still up for grabs. Aaron Heilman gives up a lot of home runs. Tyler Yates throws hard and would be a nice change of pace in a Mets rotation full of pitchers who are lucky to brake 90 on the radar gun. Grant Roberts is a nice kid and would be a solid fifth starter too. Scott Erickson sucks. Mike Piazza is doing a good a job as can be expected at first base. Piazza is crushing the ball in spring training. Joel Sherman, John Heyman and Bob Klapish are still evil. Jose Reyes seems to be making quick progress. Or is he rushing, thus risking yet another leg injury. How many neswpapers can use the same headling "Reyes of hope"? The Hot Corner says make the kid sit his butt down for a week. Don Baylor is back and cancer free. Congrats to Don and best of wishes. Dodgers rookie pitchers Edwin Jackson beaned Jason Phillips in the dome yesterday. There should be a rule that when a rookie pitcher hits a batter in the head, he's forced back to A ball for one month. That's it. I'm out. I gots to pay da bills kid.
Saturday, March 20, 2004
Heyman: "Shea Stadium looks like the Taj Mahal"
Below are selected excerpts from John Heyman's article in Newsday from December 6, 2002 commenting on the Mets signing of Tom "Noodle Arm" Glavine. This guy is a baseball genius. The Mets should definitely listen to him the next time he says to trade for Alfonso Soriano at all costs. Thanks to Sam M. for directing me to the Baseball Primer Clutch Hits thread where this came up.
Talk about a perfect fit? This is as good as it gets
Jon Heyman
Wake me, I think I'm dreaming. With one bold and beautiful and stunning stroke, the Mets have moved straight from the second division to fantasyland.
Tom Glavine is a Met. And today Shea Stadium looks like the Taj Mahal.
Today the "gold" ticket package appears to be a bargain, the "silver"' a steal.
Today Fred Wilpon is Owner of the Year.
And general manager Steve Phillips should come under consideration for a lifetime contract.
Instead, all the Mets' big executives, from Fred Wilpon to Jeff Wilpon to Phillips to Jim Duquette to anyone who had a hand or even a finger or cuticle in this glorious acquisition, need to be part of a group bow.
Today Glavine is exactly the right guy at exactly the right time, both for his ability and his availability. For those who say he is 36, I say he could be Roger Clemens' much younger brother. Or Randy Johnson's.
Pinch me, this is too good to be true. Just like that, the Mets are back in the ballgame.
Talk about a perfect fit? This is as good as it gets
Jon Heyman
Wake me, I think I'm dreaming. With one bold and beautiful and stunning stroke, the Mets have moved straight from the second division to fantasyland.
Tom Glavine is a Met. And today Shea Stadium looks like the Taj Mahal.
Today the "gold" ticket package appears to be a bargain, the "silver"' a steal.
Today Fred Wilpon is Owner of the Year.
And general manager Steve Phillips should come under consideration for a lifetime contract.
Instead, all the Mets' big executives, from Fred Wilpon to Jeff Wilpon to Phillips to Jim Duquette to anyone who had a hand or even a finger or cuticle in this glorious acquisition, need to be part of a group bow.
Today Glavine is exactly the right guy at exactly the right time, both for his ability and his availability. For those who say he is 36, I say he could be Roger Clemens' much younger brother. Or Randy Johnson's.
Pinch me, this is too good to be true. Just like that, the Mets are back in the ballgame.
Friday, March 19, 2004
UZR Article Posted at Amazinz.com
Head over to Amazinz.com to see a slightly revised version of Saturday's article, UZR for Dummies. Stop by and say hello to the creator of the site, Antonio ("DaMook"), in the forum and tell em who sent ya. And thanks Jeremy, Sam and Ed for your thoughtful comments on the article, many of which were incorporated into the revised version.
Review of the Preview: The Hardball Times Mets Preview
The Hardball Times is a new website created by an All Star cast of bloggers and a few others. It's a great site with interesting baseball articles, interviews and fantasy information. The folks over at THT have weighed in with their 2004 Mets Preview, in Five Questions: New York Mets. The author of the piece, who is also THT co Editor-in-Chief, has one of the most bizarre names I have ever seen. His name is Matthew Namee (Bill James' Research Assistant) (see a few examples here and here). Who has parentheticals as part of their name? What am I supposed to call this guy? Matthew? Mr. Assistant? Mr. Namee (Bill James' Research Assistant)? Is (BJRA) okay? I have seen hyphens; but parentheticals? Oh well, to each his own I guess. Anyway, so Mr. Namee (Bill James' Research Assistant) does a great job in answering five questions facing the Mets in 2004: 1) Kazuo Matsui -- All-Star or mediocrity? 2) Now that Mike Cameron is out of Safeco Field, how will he hit? 3) What's the future for Jose Reyes? 4) Will a move to first base rejuvenate Mike Piazza's offense? And 5) Are Tom Glavine's days as a quality starter over? I don't have parentheticals as part of my name and I'm just some schmuck that figured out how to use Blogger, but I take issue with one answer given by Mr. Namee (Bill James' Research Assistant).
1. Kazuo Matsui -- All-Star or Mediocrity?
Namee (BJRA) reviews three projections for Matsui: Baseball Prospectus' PECOTA, Baseball Primer's ZiPS, and Aaron Gleeman's prediction.
Gleeman: .275/.325/.445
PECOTA: .281/.339 /.456
ZiPS: .284/.349/.445
Namee (BJRA) concludes, based on these numbers, that Matsui will be slightly above average at best and win an All Star spot due to the Japanese voting block. However, Namee (BJRA) neglects to include the most accurate projection system known to man or stat geek: NPNOohAP ("Norm Pulls Numbers Out of his Ass Projections"). Under NPNOohAP, you take the average gain or loss from the three Japanese position players who have made the transition from Japanese baseball to MLB, and you apply that to Matsui's most recent three year statistical averages from Japan (see NL East Table Setter Showdown for an extended discussion of this issue). Between Hideki Matsui, Ichiro Suzuki, and Tsuyoshi Shinjo, there has been about a 3% loss in AVG, a 9% loss in OBP, and a 13% loss in SLG. Applying these numbers to an approximation of Kazuo Matsui's latest three year statistical averages from the Pacific League (.315/.373/.554), we can expect the following: .306/.340/.482. I like the NPNOohAP AVG and SLG numbers better than Pegota's, Zippidy Doo Da's or Gleeman's but I like ZiPYs OBP better than mine, which gives Matsui: .306/.349/.482. These numbers clearly make Matsui an All Star.
1. Kazuo Matsui -- All-Star or Mediocrity?
Namee (BJRA) reviews three projections for Matsui: Baseball Prospectus' PECOTA, Baseball Primer's ZiPS, and Aaron Gleeman's prediction.
Gleeman: .275/.325/.445
PECOTA: .281/.339 /.456
ZiPS: .284/.349/.445
Namee (BJRA) concludes, based on these numbers, that Matsui will be slightly above average at best and win an All Star spot due to the Japanese voting block. However, Namee (BJRA) neglects to include the most accurate projection system known to man or stat geek: NPNOohAP ("Norm Pulls Numbers Out of his Ass Projections"). Under NPNOohAP, you take the average gain or loss from the three Japanese position players who have made the transition from Japanese baseball to MLB, and you apply that to Matsui's most recent three year statistical averages from Japan (see NL East Table Setter Showdown for an extended discussion of this issue). Between Hideki Matsui, Ichiro Suzuki, and Tsuyoshi Shinjo, there has been about a 3% loss in AVG, a 9% loss in OBP, and a 13% loss in SLG. Applying these numbers to an approximation of Kazuo Matsui's latest three year statistical averages from the Pacific League (.315/.373/.554), we can expect the following: .306/.340/.482. I like the NPNOohAP AVG and SLG numbers better than Pegota's, Zippidy Doo Da's or Gleeman's but I like ZiPYs OBP better than mine, which gives Matsui: .306/.349/.482. These numbers clearly make Matsui an All Star.
Thursday, March 18, 2004
Full of Klap
The latest from Bob Klapisch:
To even access the outer fringe of a pennant race -- say, 88-90 wins -- the Mets need Alfonso Soriano and a complete reversal of last summer's decline from Glavine. Incredibly, Soriano's name is still a topic of intense, internal-discussion among members of the Mets' front office. One person familiar with the club's thinking says the organization is nearly unanimous in endorsing a trade for the former Yankee, but executives have been overruled by owner Fred Wilpon.
Like Klap, I have nothing even remotely intelligent or witty to say about this.
To even access the outer fringe of a pennant race -- say, 88-90 wins -- the Mets need Alfonso Soriano and a complete reversal of last summer's decline from Glavine. Incredibly, Soriano's name is still a topic of intense, internal-discussion among members of the Mets' front office. One person familiar with the club's thinking says the organization is nearly unanimous in endorsing a trade for the former Yankee, but executives have been overruled by owner Fred Wilpon.
Like Klap, I have nothing even remotely intelligent or witty to say about this.
Glavine, Wright, and Cameron
A Tale of Two Glavines. The Mets lost in embarrassing fashion to the pathetic Tigers yesterday, a game in which the Mets defense gave up 9 unearned runs on 3 errors. One bright spot was that Noodle Arm Glavine pitched well, going 5 innings, walking no one and not allowing an earned run. However, Newsday quoted one unnamed National League scout who said, "I just think he's going to cave in again. . . He's not getting those pitches on the corners anymore and teams are starting to figure him out. I don't trust him. He has to prove to me that last year wasn't a mirage." This is hardly an isolated feeling among scouts, commentators and fans. Glavine is well aware of the criticisms: "People say I'm at the end of my career. . . I am at the end of my career. But that doesn't mean I still don't have three good years left."
David Wright chimes in. Mets top position prospect David Wright chimes in with the second installment of his on-line diary. Wright says, "I try to go to the park every day and pick the brains of the coaching staff and soak up as much baseball knowledge as I can from guys like Wiggy, Joey Mac and Todd Zeile." Should the Mets have an intervention and keep these guys away from Wright? I mean, c'mon. Pair the kid up with some guys that can actually play. Other interesting quotes include: "My goal is to be a five-tool Major League player. This means I want to hit for both average and power, play good defense with a strong arm and steal some bases. Other than that, I would like to become more consistent overall." Seems like a good set of goals for a minor league prospect. Wright does not seem content with just blasting balls out of the park and wants to improve his game in all respects. Responding to a question about his work ethic, or over work ethic, Wright responds,
a few of our front office personnel crunched some numbers last year and discovered that my batting average was much higher on the road than at home. After going through my home routine compared to my road routine, we discovered that I was overworking myself before home games by doing too much early work. After cutting back my extra work and working smarter, I felt much more crisp and fresh during home games and the numbers increased drastically.
It's nice to see that statistical analysis is creeping into the Mets organization at all levels.
Speaking about player-fan interaction, check out Mike Cameron's web site. Here's a quick response he gives to a question about his home/road hitting disparity at Safeco:
For some reason I felt a little
more comfortable on the road than at
home. Hopefully, I'll even it out. If
I do that then we're looking at a
pretty good season. As much as I didn't
like hitting at Safeco, I was
comfortable at Safeco in every other
respect. It's important for me to learn
the nuances of my surroundings.
David Wright chimes in. Mets top position prospect David Wright chimes in with the second installment of his on-line diary. Wright says, "I try to go to the park every day and pick the brains of the coaching staff and soak up as much baseball knowledge as I can from guys like Wiggy, Joey Mac and Todd Zeile." Should the Mets have an intervention and keep these guys away from Wright? I mean, c'mon. Pair the kid up with some guys that can actually play. Other interesting quotes include: "My goal is to be a five-tool Major League player. This means I want to hit for both average and power, play good defense with a strong arm and steal some bases. Other than that, I would like to become more consistent overall." Seems like a good set of goals for a minor league prospect. Wright does not seem content with just blasting balls out of the park and wants to improve his game in all respects. Responding to a question about his work ethic, or over work ethic, Wright responds,
a few of our front office personnel crunched some numbers last year and discovered that my batting average was much higher on the road than at home. After going through my home routine compared to my road routine, we discovered that I was overworking myself before home games by doing too much early work. After cutting back my extra work and working smarter, I felt much more crisp and fresh during home games and the numbers increased drastically.
It's nice to see that statistical analysis is creeping into the Mets organization at all levels.
Speaking about player-fan interaction, check out Mike Cameron's web site. Here's a quick response he gives to a question about his home/road hitting disparity at Safeco:
For some reason I felt a little
more comfortable on the road than at
home. Hopefully, I'll even it out. If
I do that then we're looking at a
pretty good season. As much as I didn't
like hitting at Safeco, I was
comfortable at Safeco in every other
respect. It's important for me to learn
the nuances of my surroundings.
Wednesday, March 17, 2004
My Fantasy Baseball Team
It's a slow day so I thought I'd bore you all with my fantasy baseball team. I'm in a 10 team Yahoo head-to-head league, consisting mostly of a bunch of old high school buddies. Head-to-head is fun, as it makes for a lot of trash talking and strategy comes into play when deciding whether or not to play or sit pitchers toward the end of the week. It's pretty high maintenance compared to rotisserie style though. And with 40 moves and unlimited trades the league really favors those that add and drop players to play the hot hand as opposed to those who draft a good team, plug them in, and try to ride them out. I had the seventh pick in the draft.
Bats
C: Jason Phillips/Matt LeCroy
I missed out on the Big Three Ps - Piazza, Pudge and Posada - but I think I have my bases, or my home plate, covered with Phillips and LeCroy. Who cares if neither of them actually catch much this season. The less they catch, the fresher their bats will be. If Phillips can build on his rookie season, 15-20 HRs with a near .300 average is not a stretch at all. In limited playing time LeCroy belted 17 HRs in only 345 ABs. I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of these catchers puts up better numbers than Javy Lopez who someone in my league took in the third round as the first catcher drafted.
1B: Phil Nevin/Rafael Palmeiro
Not psyched about these two at all. I don't know what happened in the draft but I left to refill my Jack and Coke and when I got back all the first basemen were gone. I was really hoping to get Derek Lee or Richie Sexson. I think Palmeiro, out of the friendly confines of Arlington, is going to have an awful season. His numbers have been declining the past few years in one of the best hitter's parks in the AL. Nevin has the potential to be a fantasy stud but he can't keep himself healthy. His 2001 season of 41/126/.306 seems like ages ago. He already reaggravated his shoulder injury from last season in spring training so I'm not too optimistic. I might hold onto Nevin because of his great upside but I'd really like to replace Palmeiro and his big hard bats.
2B: Alfonso Soriano
While the last thing I want the Mets to do is trade a top prospect for Soriano to plug up their right field hole, that doesn't mean that I don't think he's going to have a monster year for Texas. The last two years Soriano has had a 1.409 and 1.533 OPS in Arlington. This may be a sign of great things to come from Soriano this year.
SS: Angel Berroa
Like the catcher position, the big guns went quick and I was left hanging. No A-Rod, Nomar or Tejeda. At that point I waited because I just didn't see much difference in fantasy value between Jeter, Renteria, Cabrera, Furcal, Berroa, Reyes, Matsui, and Cintron. I like Berroa. I see him as Reyes without the injury issues.
3B: Eric Chavez
Rolen was the first third basemen drafted, which left good candidates in Blalock and Lowell. Blalock's atrocious home/road splits will kill you in head to head (.342/.260) and Lowell hitting only 4 HRs after the All Star break is not too encouraging.
RF: Maglio Ordonez
There are not many better all around, consistent hitter than Maglio Ordonez. He's accumulated over 500 ABs every year since his rookie season, never Kd more than 73 times, takes his share of walks, and is a virtual lock for at least 30 HRs and 100 RBI. Along with all this, his numbers are basically the same at home versus on the road (lifetime .307 home vs. .308 on the road) and against righties and lefties (lifetimes .308 against lefties vs. .307 against righties). Talk about a model of consistency. You plug him in and forget about him.
CF: Carlos Beltran
Beltran fell in my lap in the sixth round! The only reason I can think of why this happened is that both Brian Giles and Garrett Anderson will be playing CF this year and will qualify at the position in Yahoo after they play something like 9 straight games at CF. Jim Edmonds and Vernon Wells were also drafted before Beltran. At 27 years old, playing half in games in Kauffman Stadium, in his walk year - I'm hoping I got the steal of the draft.
LF: Cliff Floyd
When healthy Floyd puts up damn good numbers. Even last year playing on one leg, he hit 18 HRs, had 68 RBI and posted .290/.376/.518 in 365 at bats in a Mets line-up that offered no protection. If he can stay healthy hitting behind Reyes, Matsui and Piazza, there's no reason he can't put up 30/100/.300.
Reserve: Edgar Martinez
Old but productive. The guy hasn't posted an OBP below .400 since 1994. Is that a typo?
Reserve: Carl Everett
Everett qualifies for all three outfield positions and may thrive flying under the radar in a city where English is the second language and in a great hitters park.
Reserve: Jose Cruz
I'm hoping Sweet Lou gives Cruz the sweet stolen base green light. I may drop him for pitching. Brett Myers is still in the scrub pile.
Reserve: Pat Burrell
Last year was a fluke right? I'm still bitter as I drafted Pat the Bat pretty high last year and waited too long for him to come around. I'll leave him on my bench to see what he does.
Starting Pitchers
Roy Halladay
I took Halladay as my number one overall pick after Pujols, A-Rod, Helton, Bonds, Prior and Manny were already taken. I guess I could of taken Pedro, Schilling, the Unit or Schmidt, but Halladay seems like the safest bet to me. He logs a lot of innings. Gets great run support. Strikes a lot of guys out. And posts very good ERA and WHIP. Plus he adds some sentimental value. Last year after he got off to an awful start (0 and 2 in 5 games started with a near 5.00 ERA) someone in my league dropped him in the scrub pile. Like a vulcher I swooped in, picked him up, and Halladay didn't lose again for another three and a half months! Oh, and of course I reminded the guy that dropped him after each win. "That's 8 wins in a row." That's 9." "That's 11" Etc...
Roy Oswalt
Despite all the hype of the Astros pitching staff, does anyone really doubt that Oswalt is the ace of this staff? When he's healthy he's a top five pitcher. With a groin injury last year that limited him to 127 innings, he still struck out 108 while only walking 29. The little guy is nasty.
Johan Santana
Left handed Pedro minus the big mouth. Santana will be in the AL Cy Young hunt this year.
Rich Harden
Harden showed signs of greatness last year. Hopefully as the A's fourth or fifth starter he'll get some favorable matchups.
Matt Clement and Carlos Zambrano
Innings pitched, complete games and complete game shutouts are pitching categories in our league. Go get em Dusty!
Jeff Weaver
Another player I'll stick on my bench until he shows me he does not suck. Hopefully Dodger Stadium will help him rebound. The lack of run support from the Dodger's line-up will annoy me, as our league counts wins and losses, and will also annoy cry baby Weaver.
Closers
Troy Percival and Arthur Rhodes
I missed out on the Gagnes and Wagners, but I'm hoping Percival has some saves left in his tank and with a good Angels line-up and solid starting staff, he should get his share of save opportunities. As for Rhodes, I think Billy Bean as a some kind of machine that he sends average pitchers into and they come out 30 save closers.
Bats
C: Jason Phillips/Matt LeCroy
I missed out on the Big Three Ps - Piazza, Pudge and Posada - but I think I have my bases, or my home plate, covered with Phillips and LeCroy. Who cares if neither of them actually catch much this season. The less they catch, the fresher their bats will be. If Phillips can build on his rookie season, 15-20 HRs with a near .300 average is not a stretch at all. In limited playing time LeCroy belted 17 HRs in only 345 ABs. I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of these catchers puts up better numbers than Javy Lopez who someone in my league took in the third round as the first catcher drafted.
1B: Phil Nevin/Rafael Palmeiro
Not psyched about these two at all. I don't know what happened in the draft but I left to refill my Jack and Coke and when I got back all the first basemen were gone. I was really hoping to get Derek Lee or Richie Sexson. I think Palmeiro, out of the friendly confines of Arlington, is going to have an awful season. His numbers have been declining the past few years in one of the best hitter's parks in the AL. Nevin has the potential to be a fantasy stud but he can't keep himself healthy. His 2001 season of 41/126/.306 seems like ages ago. He already reaggravated his shoulder injury from last season in spring training so I'm not too optimistic. I might hold onto Nevin because of his great upside but I'd really like to replace Palmeiro and his big hard bats.
2B: Alfonso Soriano
While the last thing I want the Mets to do is trade a top prospect for Soriano to plug up their right field hole, that doesn't mean that I don't think he's going to have a monster year for Texas. The last two years Soriano has had a 1.409 and 1.533 OPS in Arlington. This may be a sign of great things to come from Soriano this year.
SS: Angel Berroa
Like the catcher position, the big guns went quick and I was left hanging. No A-Rod, Nomar or Tejeda. At that point I waited because I just didn't see much difference in fantasy value between Jeter, Renteria, Cabrera, Furcal, Berroa, Reyes, Matsui, and Cintron. I like Berroa. I see him as Reyes without the injury issues.
3B: Eric Chavez
Rolen was the first third basemen drafted, which left good candidates in Blalock and Lowell. Blalock's atrocious home/road splits will kill you in head to head (.342/.260) and Lowell hitting only 4 HRs after the All Star break is not too encouraging.
RF: Maglio Ordonez
There are not many better all around, consistent hitter than Maglio Ordonez. He's accumulated over 500 ABs every year since his rookie season, never Kd more than 73 times, takes his share of walks, and is a virtual lock for at least 30 HRs and 100 RBI. Along with all this, his numbers are basically the same at home versus on the road (lifetime .307 home vs. .308 on the road) and against righties and lefties (lifetimes .308 against lefties vs. .307 against righties). Talk about a model of consistency. You plug him in and forget about him.
CF: Carlos Beltran
Beltran fell in my lap in the sixth round! The only reason I can think of why this happened is that both Brian Giles and Garrett Anderson will be playing CF this year and will qualify at the position in Yahoo after they play something like 9 straight games at CF. Jim Edmonds and Vernon Wells were also drafted before Beltran. At 27 years old, playing half in games in Kauffman Stadium, in his walk year - I'm hoping I got the steal of the draft.
LF: Cliff Floyd
When healthy Floyd puts up damn good numbers. Even last year playing on one leg, he hit 18 HRs, had 68 RBI and posted .290/.376/.518 in 365 at bats in a Mets line-up that offered no protection. If he can stay healthy hitting behind Reyes, Matsui and Piazza, there's no reason he can't put up 30/100/.300.
Reserve: Edgar Martinez
Old but productive. The guy hasn't posted an OBP below .400 since 1994. Is that a typo?
Reserve: Carl Everett
Everett qualifies for all three outfield positions and may thrive flying under the radar in a city where English is the second language and in a great hitters park.
Reserve: Jose Cruz
I'm hoping Sweet Lou gives Cruz the sweet stolen base green light. I may drop him for pitching. Brett Myers is still in the scrub pile.
Reserve: Pat Burrell
Last year was a fluke right? I'm still bitter as I drafted Pat the Bat pretty high last year and waited too long for him to come around. I'll leave him on my bench to see what he does.
Starting Pitchers
Roy Halladay
I took Halladay as my number one overall pick after Pujols, A-Rod, Helton, Bonds, Prior and Manny were already taken. I guess I could of taken Pedro, Schilling, the Unit or Schmidt, but Halladay seems like the safest bet to me. He logs a lot of innings. Gets great run support. Strikes a lot of guys out. And posts very good ERA and WHIP. Plus he adds some sentimental value. Last year after he got off to an awful start (0 and 2 in 5 games started with a near 5.00 ERA) someone in my league dropped him in the scrub pile. Like a vulcher I swooped in, picked him up, and Halladay didn't lose again for another three and a half months! Oh, and of course I reminded the guy that dropped him after each win. "That's 8 wins in a row." That's 9." "That's 11" Etc...
Roy Oswalt
Despite all the hype of the Astros pitching staff, does anyone really doubt that Oswalt is the ace of this staff? When he's healthy he's a top five pitcher. With a groin injury last year that limited him to 127 innings, he still struck out 108 while only walking 29. The little guy is nasty.
Johan Santana
Left handed Pedro minus the big mouth. Santana will be in the AL Cy Young hunt this year.
Rich Harden
Harden showed signs of greatness last year. Hopefully as the A's fourth or fifth starter he'll get some favorable matchups.
Matt Clement and Carlos Zambrano
Innings pitched, complete games and complete game shutouts are pitching categories in our league. Go get em Dusty!
Jeff Weaver
Another player I'll stick on my bench until he shows me he does not suck. Hopefully Dodger Stadium will help him rebound. The lack of run support from the Dodger's line-up will annoy me, as our league counts wins and losses, and will also annoy cry baby Weaver.
Closers
Troy Percival and Arthur Rhodes
I missed out on the Gagnes and Wagners, but I'm hoping Percival has some saves left in his tank and with a good Angels line-up and solid starting staff, he should get his share of save opportunities. As for Rhodes, I think Billy Bean as a some kind of machine that he sends average pitchers into and they come out 30 save closers.
Tuesday, March 16, 2004
I'm in a Crappy Mood Today
Yeah yeah yeah I know I'm usually so chipper.
Pedro Martinez had some choice words about Karim Garcia in ESPN's Sunday Night Conversation. Speaking about himself in the third person in such a way that would make Bob Dole proud, Pedro said, among other things, "Who are you? Who are you, Karim Garcia, to try to tell Pedro Martinez, a proven player for 10 years?" First of all, the only thing Pedro has proven is that he can't win the big game. Beat the Yankees and then talk smack. Pedro got off the hook big time last year as Grady Little became the goat of the ALCS. But Little didn't serve up the pitch that sent the Sox packing. So Pedro, take some of that Soul Glow you're sporting lately, pour it into a glass, add some Jack Daniel's, shake, swig it down, and for Christ's sake, shut the F up! Garcia, as usual, just couldn't hold it in. Instead of pissing on the side of Pedro's house, Garcia responded, "He's already thinking about me and I don't play in the American League anymore. . . He should be thinking about it. He lost two games [referring to Pedro's two ALCS losses]." Word to the wise piss boy, you are already known as a thug. Let Pedro keep flapping his pie hole and you keep your hole, all of them, shut. (source).
Jose Reyes, who pulled a hammy the other day in a pre season game, underwent an MRI yesterday to gauge the severity of the injury. The injury was Reyes' third hamstring injury in 10 months. Combine this injury with a quad ailment and a severely sprained ankle last year, and that's five leg injuries in about 15 months. This is all the more reason why signing Kazuo Matsui to play SS and displacing Reyes to second, where his legs are more of a target for baserunners, was short sighted, risky and flat out stupid. We have Matsui on a three year lease with an option to buy. He's 28. The Mets have a long term investment in 20 year old Reyes. To acquire Matsui, the Mets needed to assure him that he would be playing SS if he came to Shea. Fine. We assured him. He's here. But welcome to New York Kazuo, where bidness is bidness. The Mets should do the old bait and switch, or Flushing two-step, and renege on their promise to allow Matsui to play SS and move Reyes back to SS and put Matsui at second. Let's see if Matsui is a real team player. If Matsui doesn't like it, sianara sucka. Don't let the blue and orange door hit you in the ass on the way out. Done and done.
Reyes' injury, combined with Cliff Floyd's never ending problems, Mike Piazza's groin and leg, Mike Cameron's toe, Matsui's finger, the painful stupid looking grin cemented on Art Howe's face, and whatever else is going on at the MASH facility formerly known as Port St. Lucie, brings the Mets bench into the forefront. The 2004 Mets have a lot of "ifs." If all of these ifs turn out positively, the Mets just may be playing those coveted "meaningful games in September." However, this is a pretty flimsy house or cards Duquette and Co. have built. If one major player in the Mets deck goes down for any prolonged stretch of time, the Mets hopes of meaningful games in September collapses. Check out Jeremy's blog for a review of the Mets "craptastic" bench and how it could have been improved with a few seemingly easy moves.
The boo boo on Matsui's finger finally healed enough for him to play in the field. Matsui played four and a half innings, where he hit his first home run. The homer came from the left side and was an opposite field shot over the left field fence. Of the homer, Matsui said he did not know what type of pitch Dodger right hander Tanyon Sturtze served up. For Matsui to hit this bomb left handed, over the left field wall, I'd assume that it was not a fastball, not a curve ball, but most likely Sturtze's patented meat ball.
Pedro Martinez had some choice words about Karim Garcia in ESPN's Sunday Night Conversation. Speaking about himself in the third person in such a way that would make Bob Dole proud, Pedro said, among other things, "Who are you? Who are you, Karim Garcia, to try to tell Pedro Martinez, a proven player for 10 years?" First of all, the only thing Pedro has proven is that he can't win the big game. Beat the Yankees and then talk smack. Pedro got off the hook big time last year as Grady Little became the goat of the ALCS. But Little didn't serve up the pitch that sent the Sox packing. So Pedro, take some of that Soul Glow you're sporting lately, pour it into a glass, add some Jack Daniel's, shake, swig it down, and for Christ's sake, shut the F up! Garcia, as usual, just couldn't hold it in. Instead of pissing on the side of Pedro's house, Garcia responded, "He's already thinking about me and I don't play in the American League anymore. . . He should be thinking about it. He lost two games [referring to Pedro's two ALCS losses]." Word to the wise piss boy, you are already known as a thug. Let Pedro keep flapping his pie hole and you keep your hole, all of them, shut. (source).
Jose Reyes, who pulled a hammy the other day in a pre season game, underwent an MRI yesterday to gauge the severity of the injury. The injury was Reyes' third hamstring injury in 10 months. Combine this injury with a quad ailment and a severely sprained ankle last year, and that's five leg injuries in about 15 months. This is all the more reason why signing Kazuo Matsui to play SS and displacing Reyes to second, where his legs are more of a target for baserunners, was short sighted, risky and flat out stupid. We have Matsui on a three year lease with an option to buy. He's 28. The Mets have a long term investment in 20 year old Reyes. To acquire Matsui, the Mets needed to assure him that he would be playing SS if he came to Shea. Fine. We assured him. He's here. But welcome to New York Kazuo, where bidness is bidness. The Mets should do the old bait and switch, or Flushing two-step, and renege on their promise to allow Matsui to play SS and move Reyes back to SS and put Matsui at second. Let's see if Matsui is a real team player. If Matsui doesn't like it, sianara sucka. Don't let the blue and orange door hit you in the ass on the way out. Done and done.
Reyes' injury, combined with Cliff Floyd's never ending problems, Mike Piazza's groin and leg, Mike Cameron's toe, Matsui's finger, the painful stupid looking grin cemented on Art Howe's face, and whatever else is going on at the MASH facility formerly known as Port St. Lucie, brings the Mets bench into the forefront. The 2004 Mets have a lot of "ifs." If all of these ifs turn out positively, the Mets just may be playing those coveted "meaningful games in September." However, this is a pretty flimsy house or cards Duquette and Co. have built. If one major player in the Mets deck goes down for any prolonged stretch of time, the Mets hopes of meaningful games in September collapses. Check out Jeremy's blog for a review of the Mets "craptastic" bench and how it could have been improved with a few seemingly easy moves.
The boo boo on Matsui's finger finally healed enough for him to play in the field. Matsui played four and a half innings, where he hit his first home run. The homer came from the left side and was an opposite field shot over the left field fence. Of the homer, Matsui said he did not know what type of pitch Dodger right hander Tanyon Sturtze served up. For Matsui to hit this bomb left handed, over the left field wall, I'd assume that it was not a fastball, not a curve ball, but most likely Sturtze's patented meat ball.
Saturday, March 13, 2004
UZR for Dummies: Ty Wigginton
[Edit: a revised version of this article can be found published as a featured article at Amazinz.com]
To the naked eye it looked like Ty Wigginton did a good job at third base for the Mets last year. As a converted second basemen, 2003 was Wigginton's first full year manning a hot corner and he exceeded many Mets fans expectations. At the end of the season Wigginton found himself in the top half of many defensive statistics among everyday MLB third basemen. Considering that only about a year ago Wigginton could not afford to go out to eat at McDonald's with his teammates, I'm sure he was thrilled just to be an everyday Major League third basemen. Wigginton was right in the middle of the pack in fielding percentage. Thanks to a Mets pitching staff that put the ball in play, Wigginton had the fourth most chances among third basemen. And with all those chances, Wigginton only committed 16 errors, which was only three more errors than NL Gold Glove third basemen Scott Rolen and only two more than AL Gold Glove third basemen Eric Chavez. In addition, Wigginton was second in put outs behind only Chavez and sixth in assists, placing him tenth in range factor. Wigginton was eighth in turning two as well. Not to mention Wiggy lead the Mets in BOC (barreling over catchers). Are these Gold Glove numbers? Probably not. At the very least, however, they show that while learning on the job, in only one season, Wigginton somehow managed to mold himself into a solid defensive Major League third basemen. Or so I thought until I noticed that Wigginton ranked second to last among third basemen in Ultimate Zone Rating, or "UZR." (see UZR Part I and II).
I understood the broad concept of UZR but how it actually works was really quite alien to me. My original understanding was that UZR broke the field down into zones and assigned each position player his own series of zones. The player's ability to convert balls hit in a zone of responsibility into an out is good. Not converting such a ball into an out is bad. In light of the statistic showing up in a few mainstream sports media articles recently (NY Post and ESPN.com) combined with my surprise to see Wigginton so low in its rankings in relation to his rank in other more traditional stats, I thought I should study up and try to get a better understanding of the metric as well as try to figure out the Wiggy discrepancy. Hell, I'm a smart guy. My mom always said I was "special" before she put me on the short yellow school bus in the morning. I can figure this out, right? Ugh, not really.
Mitchel Lichtman, who developed UZR, is obviously pretty damn smart. Maybe too smart. Perhaps he wrote his two part UZR article as a sabermagician for sabermagicians, and that's all well and good. But let us non mathematical wizards join in all the stat geek games will ya. What I really need is a UZR for Dummies. I need something that finds a happy middle-ground between the Tim McCarver and Joe Morgans of the world and the Mitchel Lichtmans. It just seems sabermetrics as a whole would have much better success in being accepted and implemented, which would be a good thing, if the sabermagicians did a better job "dumbing it down" for the rest of us every so often (to their credit, Baseball Prospectus does a good job of this in their new BP Basics series). Give me a chart, a picture, a graph, anything other than,
Now, just like the "extra" positive value of a "caught ball" is 1 minus .57, the "extra" negative value of a hit is the .57 itself (an average ball hit into zone 56 gets caught 57% of the time, so when a ball isn't caught, the responsible fielders, in this case the SS and third baseman, get "docked" .57 balls).
As I was reading the article I started to feel really stupid for not knowing what "lwts hit values" and "non-ROE errors" were. But I found a glimmer of hope when I noticed that Mr. Lichtman, the UZR-BMOC, even made a slight error in methodology in his article. This made me happy. But there is still no Idiots Guide to UZR so I had to give myself a crash course using the gobbly gook (yes, I know, very scientific term) and see why it is that Wigginton can post such respectable traditional fielding stats but be God awful in UZR. Basically, whether I'm right or wrong I have come to the conclusion that Wiggy does not have great range but looking at UZR in isolation does not appear to be the best way to measure a corner infielders' defensive abilities.
Using some kind of flex capacitor bolted onto a Delorean, UZR reveals that Wigginton actually cost the Mets 24 runs over 162 games. I understand that Wigginton plays with a football player's mentality, but damn Wiggy, 24 runs is three touchdowns and a field goal! Using traditional fielding statistics and our own eyes, Wigginton seemed like he did a decent job last year in displaying the three most critical skills of a third basemen: quick reaction; a strong throwing arm; and soft hands. Not to mention that he did a good job turning the double play. But UZR appears to either ignore or undervalue some of these skills. For example, UZR does not look at an infielder's ability to turn two or the ability to snag line drives. Let me repeat that. UZR does not take into consideration the scorched line drives rocketed off bats toward or in the general vicinity of a third basemen who, other than the pitcher, is usually closest fielder to the batter. They don't call the position the hot corner for nothing yet UZR does not take these balls into consideration.
Also, third basemen's throwing ability appears to be undervalued in that his throw to first base is weighed the same as a shortstop's and second basemen's throw, despite the fact that the third basemen's throw is significantly more difficult. Some argue that the third to first throw is the most difficult throw to make on the field. At the same time, even though the difficulty level in the three throws is different, the throwing errors appear to be weighed the same. So, to me at least, it seems a third basemen's arm can never help him in UZR but only hurt him. With these exclusions, as the UZR article states, when analyzing infielders "only ground balls, including bunts, are looked at." Therefore, some of the most critical skills of a third basemen - quick reaction on hard hit line drives, a strong and accurate throwing arm, and the ability to turn a double play - go virtually unnoticed and unrewarded in UZR. UZR seems like a great tool, perhaps the best metric, in measuring middle infielders and outfielders, particularly center fielders, since these are positions whose players must cover a lot of real estate. The more ground a center fielder can cover, the more valuable he is. However, relying on UZR alone is inadequate in measuring a third basemen's defense whose priorities are different.
While important, a third basemen's ability to range to his left or right to field a ground ball is secondary to his combined abilities to handle the ground balls scorched at him, his ability to turn the double play, the line drives hit at and around him, and his ability to throw runners out at first. Even if you disagree that these combined skills do not trump the single ability to range for ground balls, you can't disagree that these are skills that are more important to middle infielders. Yet second basemen and shortstops appear to be analyzed using UZR the same as first and third basemen. Also, doesn't a third basemen's skill at ranging to his left becomes even less important when the infield has a shortstop that is above average at ranging to his right? If Kazuo Matsui is as good as billed, the importance of Wigginton's lack of range should be diminished, or hidden, by Matsui.
Nevertheless, UZR shows us that Wigginton has a hole in his defensive abilities. Wherever you think a third basemen's skill in ranging for ground balls lies on the list of skill priorities, everyone can agree that if given the choice we would rather have a third basemen that can do it all. There is an interesting article in Newsday featuring Wigginton and the defensive drills the Mets are having him do to improve his game in the field. In Covering the Angles, we learn that Mets infield coach Matt Galante, who I think I saw on the season premier of The Sopranos, has been employing an interesting technique with Wigginton. No, he's not improving Wiggy's range by sending him to Little Italy for cannolis. Instead, Galante makes Ty get on his knees (no dirty thoughts) at third base while he smacks grounders at him. Speaking about the drill, Wigginton said,
At the time, I couldn't understand what it had to do with playing third base. Then I realized that in order to stop a ball when you're on your knees and can't move your feet, you have to put your glove down quickly and at the right angle. Now it's one of my favorite drills.
While this seems like a worthwhile drill, it also appears to be a drill that plays right into Wigginton's strength while ignoring, and perhaps even exacerbating, his range problems. The last thing I want to see is any drill that forces Wigginton off his feet. I trust, well I hope, that this Dorf On Third Base drill was the focus of an entire article due to its unorthodoxy and not a reflection of where the Mets think Wigginton's defensive problems lie. Galante said of Wigginton, "I thought he'd be average in his first year and above-average this year." Looking at the entire picture, not just UZR, The Godfather of Infield was right; Wigginton was average last year. If he intends to go from average to above average Wiggy needs to get off his knees and onto his feet.
To the naked eye it looked like Ty Wigginton did a good job at third base for the Mets last year. As a converted second basemen, 2003 was Wigginton's first full year manning a hot corner and he exceeded many Mets fans expectations. At the end of the season Wigginton found himself in the top half of many defensive statistics among everyday MLB third basemen. Considering that only about a year ago Wigginton could not afford to go out to eat at McDonald's with his teammates, I'm sure he was thrilled just to be an everyday Major League third basemen. Wigginton was right in the middle of the pack in fielding percentage. Thanks to a Mets pitching staff that put the ball in play, Wigginton had the fourth most chances among third basemen. And with all those chances, Wigginton only committed 16 errors, which was only three more errors than NL Gold Glove third basemen Scott Rolen and only two more than AL Gold Glove third basemen Eric Chavez. In addition, Wigginton was second in put outs behind only Chavez and sixth in assists, placing him tenth in range factor. Wigginton was eighth in turning two as well. Not to mention Wiggy lead the Mets in BOC (barreling over catchers). Are these Gold Glove numbers? Probably not. At the very least, however, they show that while learning on the job, in only one season, Wigginton somehow managed to mold himself into a solid defensive Major League third basemen. Or so I thought until I noticed that Wigginton ranked second to last among third basemen in Ultimate Zone Rating, or "UZR." (see UZR Part I and II).
I understood the broad concept of UZR but how it actually works was really quite alien to me. My original understanding was that UZR broke the field down into zones and assigned each position player his own series of zones. The player's ability to convert balls hit in a zone of responsibility into an out is good. Not converting such a ball into an out is bad. In light of the statistic showing up in a few mainstream sports media articles recently (NY Post and ESPN.com) combined with my surprise to see Wigginton so low in its rankings in relation to his rank in other more traditional stats, I thought I should study up and try to get a better understanding of the metric as well as try to figure out the Wiggy discrepancy. Hell, I'm a smart guy. My mom always said I was "special" before she put me on the short yellow school bus in the morning. I can figure this out, right? Ugh, not really.
Mitchel Lichtman, who developed UZR, is obviously pretty damn smart. Maybe too smart. Perhaps he wrote his two part UZR article as a sabermagician for sabermagicians, and that's all well and good. But let us non mathematical wizards join in all the stat geek games will ya. What I really need is a UZR for Dummies. I need something that finds a happy middle-ground between the Tim McCarver and Joe Morgans of the world and the Mitchel Lichtmans. It just seems sabermetrics as a whole would have much better success in being accepted and implemented, which would be a good thing, if the sabermagicians did a better job "dumbing it down" for the rest of us every so often (to their credit, Baseball Prospectus does a good job of this in their new BP Basics series). Give me a chart, a picture, a graph, anything other than,
Now, just like the "extra" positive value of a "caught ball" is 1 minus .57, the "extra" negative value of a hit is the .57 itself (an average ball hit into zone 56 gets caught 57% of the time, so when a ball isn't caught, the responsible fielders, in this case the SS and third baseman, get "docked" .57 balls).
As I was reading the article I started to feel really stupid for not knowing what "lwts hit values" and "non-ROE errors" were. But I found a glimmer of hope when I noticed that Mr. Lichtman, the UZR-BMOC, even made a slight error in methodology in his article. This made me happy. But there is still no Idiots Guide to UZR so I had to give myself a crash course using the gobbly gook (yes, I know, very scientific term) and see why it is that Wigginton can post such respectable traditional fielding stats but be God awful in UZR. Basically, whether I'm right or wrong I have come to the conclusion that Wiggy does not have great range but looking at UZR in isolation does not appear to be the best way to measure a corner infielders' defensive abilities.
Using some kind of flex capacitor bolted onto a Delorean, UZR reveals that Wigginton actually cost the Mets 24 runs over 162 games. I understand that Wigginton plays with a football player's mentality, but damn Wiggy, 24 runs is three touchdowns and a field goal! Using traditional fielding statistics and our own eyes, Wigginton seemed like he did a decent job last year in displaying the three most critical skills of a third basemen: quick reaction; a strong throwing arm; and soft hands. Not to mention that he did a good job turning the double play. But UZR appears to either ignore or undervalue some of these skills. For example, UZR does not look at an infielder's ability to turn two or the ability to snag line drives. Let me repeat that. UZR does not take into consideration the scorched line drives rocketed off bats toward or in the general vicinity of a third basemen who, other than the pitcher, is usually closest fielder to the batter. They don't call the position the hot corner for nothing yet UZR does not take these balls into consideration.
Also, third basemen's throwing ability appears to be undervalued in that his throw to first base is weighed the same as a shortstop's and second basemen's throw, despite the fact that the third basemen's throw is significantly more difficult. Some argue that the third to first throw is the most difficult throw to make on the field. At the same time, even though the difficulty level in the three throws is different, the throwing errors appear to be weighed the same. So, to me at least, it seems a third basemen's arm can never help him in UZR but only hurt him. With these exclusions, as the UZR article states, when analyzing infielders "only ground balls, including bunts, are looked at." Therefore, some of the most critical skills of a third basemen - quick reaction on hard hit line drives, a strong and accurate throwing arm, and the ability to turn a double play - go virtually unnoticed and unrewarded in UZR. UZR seems like a great tool, perhaps the best metric, in measuring middle infielders and outfielders, particularly center fielders, since these are positions whose players must cover a lot of real estate. The more ground a center fielder can cover, the more valuable he is. However, relying on UZR alone is inadequate in measuring a third basemen's defense whose priorities are different.
While important, a third basemen's ability to range to his left or right to field a ground ball is secondary to his combined abilities to handle the ground balls scorched at him, his ability to turn the double play, the line drives hit at and around him, and his ability to throw runners out at first. Even if you disagree that these combined skills do not trump the single ability to range for ground balls, you can't disagree that these are skills that are more important to middle infielders. Yet second basemen and shortstops appear to be analyzed using UZR the same as first and third basemen. Also, doesn't a third basemen's skill at ranging to his left becomes even less important when the infield has a shortstop that is above average at ranging to his right? If Kazuo Matsui is as good as billed, the importance of Wigginton's lack of range should be diminished, or hidden, by Matsui.
Nevertheless, UZR shows us that Wigginton has a hole in his defensive abilities. Wherever you think a third basemen's skill in ranging for ground balls lies on the list of skill priorities, everyone can agree that if given the choice we would rather have a third basemen that can do it all. There is an interesting article in Newsday featuring Wigginton and the defensive drills the Mets are having him do to improve his game in the field. In Covering the Angles, we learn that Mets infield coach Matt Galante, who I think I saw on the season premier of The Sopranos, has been employing an interesting technique with Wigginton. No, he's not improving Wiggy's range by sending him to Little Italy for cannolis. Instead, Galante makes Ty get on his knees (no dirty thoughts) at third base while he smacks grounders at him. Speaking about the drill, Wigginton said,
At the time, I couldn't understand what it had to do with playing third base. Then I realized that in order to stop a ball when you're on your knees and can't move your feet, you have to put your glove down quickly and at the right angle. Now it's one of my favorite drills.
While this seems like a worthwhile drill, it also appears to be a drill that plays right into Wigginton's strength while ignoring, and perhaps even exacerbating, his range problems. The last thing I want to see is any drill that forces Wigginton off his feet. I trust, well I hope, that this Dorf On Third Base drill was the focus of an entire article due to its unorthodoxy and not a reflection of where the Mets think Wigginton's defensive problems lie. Galante said of Wigginton, "I thought he'd be average in his first year and above-average this year." Looking at the entire picture, not just UZR, The Godfather of Infield was right; Wigginton was average last year. If he intends to go from average to above average Wiggy needs to get off his knees and onto his feet.
Thursday, March 11, 2004
National Baseball Day: It Was Already Proposed
Athletics Nation came up with a great idea to make Major League Baseball's opening day a national holiday and the idea was picked up by countless other baseball blogs. A National Baseball Day makes sense. After all, we already have a Federal Lands Cleanup Day, Citizenship Day, and a National Aviation Day, so why not a National Baseball Day? Well, first, in the current political climate a "National Steroid Testing of Baseball Players Day" is more likely. But also, I just wanted to point out that a National Baseball Day was actually already proposed in Congress in 1996 by then Senators Lautenberg, Bradley, and Moynihan and joined by several other Senators. It seems, however, that the proposal died before reaching committee. Below is an excerpt from the proposed "National Baseball Day."
Senate Resolution 215
Whereas the seeds of modern baseball were planted on the Elysian Fields of Hoboken, New Jersey, on the warm spring afternoon of June 19, 1846;
Whereas on that historic date, one of baseball's earliest and most influential teams, the Knickerbockers, invited a group known as the New York Club to join them for a "game of ball" under a unique set of rules that the Knickerbockers had recently devised;
Whereas the game the Knickerbockers conceived so excited and captivated the imagination of sports enthusiasts that other "baseball clubs" soon began to assemble;
Whereas these early clubs organized and modeled themselves on the example set by the Knickerbockers and adopted the Knickerbockers written "Rules of Play";
Whereas these men and teams were amateurs in the noblest sense of the word, as they played for the sheer joy they found in this new and captivating game;
Whereas over the next decade, the Elysian Fields grew into the first great center of baseball activity in the United States, and began to attract players and spectators from across the Nation;
Whereas Alexander Joy Cartwright, Jr. was the guiding force behind the Knickerbockers, and is the American who, perhaps, best deserves the title of " Father of Modern Baseball";
Whereas the game of baseball spread north and south along the east coast of the United States;
Whereas today this game is known simply as "baseball", a game which, unlike any other, has had a profound influence on generation after generation of Americans;
Whereas for millions of Americans, baseball is part of their earliest childhood memories, including the crack of a bat, the smell of a glove, and the endless summers spent on sandlots and schoolyards in every community across this great Nation in a uniquely American rite of passage;
Whereas for many Americans, their first real heroes wore pinstriped baseball uniforms, and these heroes taught generations of young Americans important values and inspired their first dreams of glory;
Whereas in every American generation for 150 years, baseball has been an important bond between millions of parents and their children who have shared countless afternoons at the ballpark;
Whereas today, baseball binds one generation of Americans to the next through a shared experience that has become central to our cultural identity as a Nation;
Whereas it is often said that to understand America, one must first understand the game of baseball; and
Whereas the designation of a "National Baseball Day" will provide an opportunity to celebrate America's "national pastime" and to reflect upon a game that has become a metaphor for our Nation's values and a living symbol of our cultural heritage: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That the Senate, in recognition of the fundamental role that the game of baseball has played in shaping our American experience, and as a tribute to those who first pioneered the game, designate June 19, 1996, as "National Baseball Day." The President is authorized and requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities.
Senate Resolution 215
Whereas the seeds of modern baseball were planted on the Elysian Fields of Hoboken, New Jersey, on the warm spring afternoon of June 19, 1846;
Whereas on that historic date, one of baseball's earliest and most influential teams, the Knickerbockers, invited a group known as the New York Club to join them for a "game of ball" under a unique set of rules that the Knickerbockers had recently devised;
Whereas the game the Knickerbockers conceived so excited and captivated the imagination of sports enthusiasts that other "baseball clubs" soon began to assemble;
Whereas these early clubs organized and modeled themselves on the example set by the Knickerbockers and adopted the Knickerbockers written "Rules of Play";
Whereas these men and teams were amateurs in the noblest sense of the word, as they played for the sheer joy they found in this new and captivating game;
Whereas over the next decade, the Elysian Fields grew into the first great center of baseball activity in the United States, and began to attract players and spectators from across the Nation;
Whereas Alexander Joy Cartwright, Jr. was the guiding force behind the Knickerbockers, and is the American who, perhaps, best deserves the title of " Father of Modern Baseball";
Whereas the game of baseball spread north and south along the east coast of the United States;
Whereas today this game is known simply as "baseball", a game which, unlike any other, has had a profound influence on generation after generation of Americans;
Whereas for millions of Americans, baseball is part of their earliest childhood memories, including the crack of a bat, the smell of a glove, and the endless summers spent on sandlots and schoolyards in every community across this great Nation in a uniquely American rite of passage;
Whereas for many Americans, their first real heroes wore pinstriped baseball uniforms, and these heroes taught generations of young Americans important values and inspired their first dreams of glory;
Whereas in every American generation for 150 years, baseball has been an important bond between millions of parents and their children who have shared countless afternoons at the ballpark;
Whereas today, baseball binds one generation of Americans to the next through a shared experience that has become central to our cultural identity as a Nation;
Whereas it is often said that to understand America, one must first understand the game of baseball; and
Whereas the designation of a "National Baseball Day" will provide an opportunity to celebrate America's "national pastime" and to reflect upon a game that has become a metaphor for our Nation's values and a living symbol of our cultural heritage: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That the Senate, in recognition of the fundamental role that the game of baseball has played in shaping our American experience, and as a tribute to those who first pioneered the game, designate June 19, 1996, as "National Baseball Day." The President is authorized and requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities.
Wednesday, March 10, 2004
Finally, Some Good News and Positive Reporting for the Mets
To my utter amazement, I logged into ESPN.com's baseball page to see Jose Reyes tagging a runner out at second with the headline "Wiz Kids." Then I notice not one, but two stories about the Mets that did not include the words "suck" or "last place." The first article by Bob Klapisch, Mets offering a flair in the field, is a feature of the Mets new emphasis and implementation of up-the-middle defense with the acquisition of Mike Cameron, Kazuo Matsui, and transfer of the wiz kid to second. Of Cameron, sabermagicians will be floored to read that in yet another mainstream media article, UZR is mentioned:
The Mets have the numbers to prove it. With the Mariners last year, Cameron led all outfielders in total chances (492), putouts (485) and range factor (3.42). Additionally, Cameron topped all fielders with a 31 Ultimate Zone Rating -- a system devised by BaseballPrimer.com with help from Stats Inc. that measures runs saved or cost. According to this barometer, Cameron saved 31 more runs than the average center fielder in 2003, outperforming Andruw Jones, who had a rating of 19.
The second article stated that police will not file charges against Karim Garcia and Shane Spencer relating to the Pissgate episode.
The Mets have the numbers to prove it. With the Mariners last year, Cameron led all outfielders in total chances (492), putouts (485) and range factor (3.42). Additionally, Cameron topped all fielders with a 31 Ultimate Zone Rating -- a system devised by BaseballPrimer.com with help from Stats Inc. that measures runs saved or cost. According to this barometer, Cameron saved 31 more runs than the average center fielder in 2003, outperforming Andruw Jones, who had a rating of 19.
The second article stated that police will not file charges against Karim Garcia and Shane Spencer relating to the Pissgate episode.
Busy Hump Day
I have been pretty swamped the last few days and today, which accounts for my awful blogging. Well, more awful than usual. If you're dying for some Mets news, check out Jeremy's blog for some Wiggy and Grant Roberts analysis. Over at Yankees, Mets and the Rest, Scott might take the next step in his relationship with his girlfriend and buy her high speed internet. Wow, what a romantic. Adam from Ducks on the Pond is back from Port St. Loosen up Pizzaboy with a recap of spring training. Steve, chillin over at The Eddie Kranepool Society has my back, and every Mets fans' back for that matter, in discussing Joel Sherman's "Excessive Highlander Compulsive Disorder." In one of the newer Mets blogs (I'm no longer the newest kid on the block, yippee!), John from Rumblings of a disgruntled Mets fan takes a stab at the Mets 25 man roster and Joe from Betty's IHOP does an awesome job with Part I, The Bats, of his 2004 New York Mets Preview. Lastly, Avkash from The Raindrops hooks us up with a great review of the Mets farm system. This is an excerpt Avkash wrote that appeared in a larger review of the Mets 2004 team written by Gwyn Price from The Batter's Box. The entire review is well worth the read and is one of the best 2004 Mets reviews I have come across. Mets bloggers even get a shout out from the boys North of the border when they listed and provided links to a bunch of Mets blogs and said,
The Mets blogging scene is both populous and prolific. On the sites below you will find everything from solid sabermetrics to passionate rants. One of the best thing from a Jays fans perspective are the high DY/P (Digs at the Yankees per Page) figures, for there are few things more fun than taking digs at the Yankees.
That's pretty cool. Thanks Batter's Box. And I was shocked to notice that people actually read my pathetic little personal soap box and called something I did "brilliant." Unbelievable. My own wife, The Smokin' Hot Corner, thinks I'm an idiot but a perfect stranger from The Batter's Box had something nice to say about something I wrote. Now that I'm feeling all sappy, in light of The Shea Hot Corner's one month anniversary this week, I just wanted to say thanks to those of you that stop by. I started this blog simply to escape the technical writing I do professionally and to write about what I want, when I want and how I want. The fact that people show up every so often to check my site out is just gravy. Also, thanks to all other Mets bloggers out there. Talking with you guys has just been an added, unexpected bonus of getting this blog up and running. Okay, that's it. I have to get some work done.
The Mets blogging scene is both populous and prolific. On the sites below you will find everything from solid sabermetrics to passionate rants. One of the best thing from a Jays fans perspective are the high DY/P (Digs at the Yankees per Page) figures, for there are few things more fun than taking digs at the Yankees.
That's pretty cool. Thanks Batter's Box. And I was shocked to notice that people actually read my pathetic little personal soap box and called something I did "brilliant." Unbelievable. My own wife, The Smokin' Hot Corner, thinks I'm an idiot but a perfect stranger from The Batter's Box had something nice to say about something I wrote. Now that I'm feeling all sappy, in light of The Shea Hot Corner's one month anniversary this week, I just wanted to say thanks to those of you that stop by. I started this blog simply to escape the technical writing I do professionally and to write about what I want, when I want and how I want. The fact that people show up every so often to check my site out is just gravy. Also, thanks to all other Mets bloggers out there. Talking with you guys has just been an added, unexpected bonus of getting this blog up and running. Okay, that's it. I have to get some work done.
Tuesday, March 09, 2004
Rounding em up
Joel Sherman continues to obsess about the Mets lack of interest in Soriano: "Being a Met in 2004 means playing for a team resistant to doing what is necessary to upgrade its lineup and image by getting Alfonso Soriano." Sherman displays great literary range with this Hemmingway-like sentence referring to the Yankees: "Why would you not want to go where the wins flow like Cristal?" Where did they find this guy?
Eric Vidal, the most famous pizza boy in America right now, has pressed formal charges with police against Spencer and Garcia and, in a shocking revelation, has hired an attorney to cash in, I mean seek civil damages.
On the field, Kazuo Matsui had his first at bats yesterday (0 for 2) while Grant Roberts and Steve Trachsel had solid outings.
Hot Corner Poll Update: Mr. Met is currently killing Mr. Lisa Guerrero 23 to 4. Ha ha ha ha ha!
Eric Vidal, the most famous pizza boy in America right now, has pressed formal charges with police against Spencer and Garcia and, in a shocking revelation, has hired an attorney to cash in, I mean seek civil damages.
On the field, Kazuo Matsui had his first at bats yesterday (0 for 2) while Grant Roberts and Steve Trachsel had solid outings.
Hot Corner Poll Update: Mr. Met is currently killing Mr. Lisa Guerrero 23 to 4. Ha ha ha ha ha!
Monday, March 08, 2004
Vladimir Guerrero Goes Deep
As reported by David over at Baseball Musings,
Vlad Guerrero and Jose Guillen just went back-to-back to give the Angels a 3-1 lead over the Mariners in the fifth. You could see on the replay of Vlad's HR that he got great extension on a low pitch, just a perfect swing. Afterward, they had a shot of Moreno on his cell phone with a big smile on his face.
In other news, Mets right fielders Karim Garcia and Shane Spencer were equally impressive in going back-to-back in kicking the hell out of Port St. Lucie pizzaboy Eric Vidal. Garcia got great extension on his shove while Spencer showed awesome plate coverage in dropping Vidal and landing a series of body blows with perfect swings. Mets GM Jim Duquette, like Moreno, could be seen on a cell phone (with the Mets legal team).
Vlad Guerrero and Jose Guillen just went back-to-back to give the Angels a 3-1 lead over the Mariners in the fifth. You could see on the replay of Vlad's HR that he got great extension on a low pitch, just a perfect swing. Afterward, they had a shot of Moreno on his cell phone with a big smile on his face.
In other news, Mets right fielders Karim Garcia and Shane Spencer were equally impressive in going back-to-back in kicking the hell out of Port St. Lucie pizzaboy Eric Vidal. Garcia got great extension on his shove while Spencer showed awesome plate coverage in dropping Vidal and landing a series of body blows with perfect swings. Mets GM Jim Duquette, like Moreno, could be seen on a cell phone (with the Mets legal team).
Fantasy Baseball: Top 5 Starting Pitchers, Sleepers and Busts
My fantasy baseball draft is coming up this week and thought I'd share some thoughts on starting pitchers. Nothing too earth shattering but here's my top 5, a few sleepers and busts.
Studs
1. Mark Prior: After going through some growing pains his first half year with a bloated 3.32 ERA, Prior settled down to a 2.43 ERA with a few Ks (245) last year. Yeah, he’s okay. Maybe if Dusty Baker doesn’t gnaw his arm off like he does those match sticks we’ll have the pleasure of seeing Prior’s career develop past this season.
2. Javier Vazquez: If Andy Pettitte, with his 4.02 ERA, could win 21 games pitching for last year’s “weak” Yankee line-up, how many games do you think an actual stud pitcher tossing for this year’s Yankee line-up can win? 25? Maybe more. Can you say AL Cy Young.
3. Curt Schilling: Schilling seems like he’s on a mission and word on the street is he’s even working on a new pitch; a cutter. In related news, bat maker Louisville Slugger has decided to increase production to meet the inevitable spike in demand from AL hitters.
4. Pedro Martinez: Baseball has been berry berry good to Pedro. And in return, Pedro has been berry berry good to his fantasy owners. With a bona fide closer finally in Bean Town, Pedro might finally accumulate the wins his fantasy owners need.
5. Roy Halladay: 505. What’s that number you ask? No, it’s not the total number of HRs Griffey Jr. needs to creep up to number 19 on the all time HR list behind Mell Ott, it’s the number of innings Roy Halladay has thrown the last two seasons. Doc Halladay has at least one more season before his arm shrivels up and falls off.
Sleepers
Jeff Weaver: Just what the doctor ordered. Out of New York and into Chavez Ravine. Well, not literally. I don't know if Weaver can swim?
Johan Santana: I hopped on Santana’s back the second half of last season and rode him into the playoffs, as he finished the year with 8 straight wins. If Santana can figure out a way to pitch at home (4.07 ERA at home vs. 1.94 away) and if his surgically repaired elbow can hold up, Santana might break out.
Busts
Esteban Loaiza: Pick which numbers look out of place.
5.02, 5.71, 2.90
11, 9, 21
110, 87, 207
Kerry Wood: Okay okay maybe he won’t be a bust, but his inconsistency is maddening. Despite all the hype, Wood has never won more than 14 games and has walked 90 or more batters in each of the last three seasons. Wood’s tendency to put hitters on board combined with his career 5.76 ERA with runners on base is not a good thing. Maybe this is the year Wood ties up all his loose ends and becomes the consistent lights out pitcher he shows signs of. Or maybe not. I wouldn’t take him too early.
Studs
1. Mark Prior: After going through some growing pains his first half year with a bloated 3.32 ERA, Prior settled down to a 2.43 ERA with a few Ks (245) last year. Yeah, he’s okay. Maybe if Dusty Baker doesn’t gnaw his arm off like he does those match sticks we’ll have the pleasure of seeing Prior’s career develop past this season.
2. Javier Vazquez: If Andy Pettitte, with his 4.02 ERA, could win 21 games pitching for last year’s “weak” Yankee line-up, how many games do you think an actual stud pitcher tossing for this year’s Yankee line-up can win? 25? Maybe more. Can you say AL Cy Young.
3. Curt Schilling: Schilling seems like he’s on a mission and word on the street is he’s even working on a new pitch; a cutter. In related news, bat maker Louisville Slugger has decided to increase production to meet the inevitable spike in demand from AL hitters.
4. Pedro Martinez: Baseball has been berry berry good to Pedro. And in return, Pedro has been berry berry good to his fantasy owners. With a bona fide closer finally in Bean Town, Pedro might finally accumulate the wins his fantasy owners need.
5. Roy Halladay: 505. What’s that number you ask? No, it’s not the total number of HRs Griffey Jr. needs to creep up to number 19 on the all time HR list behind Mell Ott, it’s the number of innings Roy Halladay has thrown the last two seasons. Doc Halladay has at least one more season before his arm shrivels up and falls off.
Sleepers
Jeff Weaver: Just what the doctor ordered. Out of New York and into Chavez Ravine. Well, not literally. I don't know if Weaver can swim?
Johan Santana: I hopped on Santana’s back the second half of last season and rode him into the playoffs, as he finished the year with 8 straight wins. If Santana can figure out a way to pitch at home (4.07 ERA at home vs. 1.94 away) and if his surgically repaired elbow can hold up, Santana might break out.
Busts
Esteban Loaiza: Pick which numbers look out of place.
5.02, 5.71, 2.90
11, 9, 21
110, 87, 207
Kerry Wood: Okay okay maybe he won’t be a bust, but his inconsistency is maddening. Despite all the hype, Wood has never won more than 14 games and has walked 90 or more batters in each of the last three seasons. Wood’s tendency to put hitters on board combined with his career 5.76 ERA with runners on base is not a good thing. Maybe this is the year Wood ties up all his loose ends and becomes the consistent lights out pitcher he shows signs of. Or maybe not. I wouldn’t take him too early.
Sunday, March 07, 2004
Correction
Last week I cited another blog which posted that John Franco was accused of taking steroids by Andy Van Slyke. Well, every once in a while the planets align just right and I'm proven wrong. Ron tells me that it was actually 109 year old Braves first basemen Julio Franco who was accused and not 107 year old Mets relief pitcher John Franco. Julio . . . John . . . details details. But now that I think about it, who cares who it was! It's the response that's so damn funny. Here it is again just for the hell of it (here's a link to the story):
Tell Andy Van Slyke he's right -- I'm on the best juice there is. I'm juiced up every day, and the name of my juice is Jesus. I'm on His power, His wisdom, His understanding. Andy Van Slyke is right. But the thing he didn't mention was what kind of steroids I'm on. Next time you talk to him, tell him the steroid I'm on is Jesus of Nazareth.
Tell Andy Van Slyke he's right -- I'm on the best juice there is. I'm juiced up every day, and the name of my juice is Jesus. I'm on His power, His wisdom, His understanding. Andy Van Slyke is right. But the thing he didn't mention was what kind of steroids I'm on. Next time you talk to him, tell him the steroid I'm on is Jesus of Nazareth.
Blackmun Papers Update
Brian, John and Clyde (thanks guys) tell me that they think the fourth item in Justice Blackmun's note (see yesterday's entry) referring to Cubs hall of fame outfielder Kiki Cuyler, which I could not originally decipher, says:
Had a "meaningful relation" with PK Wrigley.
PK Wrigley is a reference to Phillip K. Wrigley, owner of the Cubs from 1932 until his death in 1977. However, now that I think I know what it says and who is being referred to, I have no idea what it means? It seems Blackmun is being sarcastic, especially with his use of quotation marks, in referring to the relationship between Cuyler and Wrigley. I poked around the net and did a few news searches but could not find anything enlightening. One possibility is that Blackmun confused Cuyler's hostile relationship with his former team's owner and manager. The Baseball Page points out,
Cuyler won a bitter contract dispute with Pirate owner Barney Dreyfuss in the spring of 1927, which placed the popular outfielder on shaky ground. In August he failed to slide into second base on an apparent force play and was benched by manager Donie Bush (who didn't really like Cuyler anyway) for the remainder of the season - even though Pittsburgh was in first place. The feisty skipper refused to place Cuyler in the lineup for the World Series loss against New York and at season's end the right-handed batter was shipped to the Cubs.
If anyone feels like putting their historian hat on and telling us what the fourth item in Blackmun's note is really referring to, I'd love to hear it.
Had a "meaningful relation" with PK Wrigley.
PK Wrigley is a reference to Phillip K. Wrigley, owner of the Cubs from 1932 until his death in 1977. However, now that I think I know what it says and who is being referred to, I have no idea what it means? It seems Blackmun is being sarcastic, especially with his use of quotation marks, in referring to the relationship between Cuyler and Wrigley. I poked around the net and did a few news searches but could not find anything enlightening. One possibility is that Blackmun confused Cuyler's hostile relationship with his former team's owner and manager. The Baseball Page points out,
Cuyler won a bitter contract dispute with Pirate owner Barney Dreyfuss in the spring of 1927, which placed the popular outfielder on shaky ground. In August he failed to slide into second base on an apparent force play and was benched by manager Donie Bush (who didn't really like Cuyler anyway) for the remainder of the season - even though Pittsburgh was in first place. The feisty skipper refused to place Cuyler in the lineup for the World Series loss against New York and at season's end the right-handed batter was shipped to the Cubs.
If anyone feels like putting their historian hat on and telling us what the fourth item in Blackmun's note is really referring to, I'd love to hear it.
Why Do You Torture Me Joel Sherman of 519 Maple Lane!!!!
Inhale. Exhale. Inhale. Exhale. Drink some grade B maple syrup. Take deep cleansing breaths. Find a 6'6 140 pound yogi. Relax. Put yourself in a happy place. October 1986 in front of the TV. Think good thoughts. Fairies. Angels. Wait, the Angels are a baseball team. They play in the American League. The American League is the league other than the National League. There are other teams in the National League. The Mets are a baseball team that plays in the National League! Newspapers cover the Mets National League baseball team! The NY Post is a newspaper that covers the Mets National League baseball team! And Joel Sherman writes for the NY Post that covers the Mets National League baseball team! Damn it! No matter how hard I try I can't not read Joel Sherman's articles! He's like a car wreck; you know it's going to be grizzly but you look anyway. And you always wish you hadn't. This morning I wish I hadn't.
So ask yourself - what does the Spencer/Garcia pizza boy brouhaha have to do with Alfonso Soriano? NOTHING! Well, nothing unless you are Joel Sherman looking to fill some space with brain vomit. Sherman turns the Spencer/Garcia altercation into yet another mindless article bashing the Mets for not trading Scott Kazmir and anyone else for that matter to obtain Alfonso Soriano.
There is a determined group within the Met organization, players included, hoping to ultimately convince Fred Wilpon to spend the money and prospects necessary to obtain Alfonso Soriano.
If this determined group within the Met organization exists, then they represent the least evolved, IQ challenged, most self-serving sub group in the Mets. Sherman et al are the first to trash the Mets if there are any indications that ownership is taking the advise of its veteran players yet now Sherman feels justified in proclaiming the Mets should listen to players who, for their own selfish reasons, may want Soriano. And this is all assuming this "determined group within the Met organization" is anything more than a figment of Sherman's Met bashing, pinstriping imagination. I will not take a statement by Al Leiter or Tom Glavine saying that they would like to have Alfonso Soriano on the team as an endorsement to trade away Scott Kazmir to get him. Every comment made by Met players was a simple response to reporters questions asking "what do you think of Soriano" or "would you like to have Soriano on your team." What are the players supposed to say "no, the guy sucks."
Their case already was strong: Soriano's lively bat and athletic body; the energy that would be injected into a discouraged fan base (hello, attendance boost), and the chance - for a change - to score one over the Yankees.
A strong case huh? I guess it would be too much to ask for this clown to realize that if Soriano comes to the Mets he would be transferred to right field and batted lower in the batting order than he had in the past, whether he likes it or not. Once you send him to right field and hit him lower in the order the two main attributes of his game, power and speed, are cut off at the knees. No longer would Soriano be a freakishly productive second basemen but would be a dime a dozen right fielder. An overpaid one at that. And as for the chance "to score one over the Yankees" who the hell cares! But if you're the type of fan that likes to pretend that the Mets and Yankees play each other in the NY East Division, please tell me how taking yet another Bronx reject somehow scores one over on the Yankees? They didn't want Soriano. They shipped him off. They got the best player in the game in return. And they got that best player in the game in return on the cheap. Obtaining Soriano would not be getting one over on the Yankees, it would be taking their sloppy seconds. No thanks, I don't want the Yankees' cooties.
On Thursday night, the case got stronger as the fighting in the Mets' version of Platoon turned out poorly. Karim Garcia and Shane Spencer, the favorites to share right field, were involved in an altercation outside a local bar, much of which I personally witnessed.
Why why why couldn't Spencer and Garcia have urinated on Sherman, ran him over with their Hummer and then thrown him in the bushes!
Interestingly, Spencer and especially Garcia are Mets partly due to a gleaming endorsement Yankee GM Brian Cashman offered his Met counterpart, Jim Duquette. "That's one of the reasons why when I saw it [accounts of this altercation] in the paper I felt so bad," Cashman said by phone. In particular, Cashman had told Duquette that despite Garcia's Fenway bullpen fracas during last year's ALCS Game 3, an incident for which Garcia is still facing assault and battery charges, he thought Garcia had good character.
Cashman! (in my best Seinfeld "Newman!" voice)
Rangers GM John Hart has said he will not deal Soriano this spring. However, a person familiar with the Mets' inner workings, said Hart also said stay in touch. Which Met brass has interpreted as Soriano could be had for the right price. Read Scott Kazmir.
This "person familiar with the Mets' inner workings" is very busy. Get this guy a raise already. I wonder if Sherman has a Windows short cut on his PC desktop for "person familiar with the Mets' inner workings"?
Today there is even more of a case for the Mets to go get Soriano. More stupid Met tricks.
Breath. You can do it. Calm down. Inhale. Exhale. Inhale. Exhale.
So ask yourself - what does the Spencer/Garcia pizza boy brouhaha have to do with Alfonso Soriano? NOTHING! Well, nothing unless you are Joel Sherman looking to fill some space with brain vomit. Sherman turns the Spencer/Garcia altercation into yet another mindless article bashing the Mets for not trading Scott Kazmir and anyone else for that matter to obtain Alfonso Soriano.
There is a determined group within the Met organization, players included, hoping to ultimately convince Fred Wilpon to spend the money and prospects necessary to obtain Alfonso Soriano.
If this determined group within the Met organization exists, then they represent the least evolved, IQ challenged, most self-serving sub group in the Mets. Sherman et al are the first to trash the Mets if there are any indications that ownership is taking the advise of its veteran players yet now Sherman feels justified in proclaiming the Mets should listen to players who, for their own selfish reasons, may want Soriano. And this is all assuming this "determined group within the Met organization" is anything more than a figment of Sherman's Met bashing, pinstriping imagination. I will not take a statement by Al Leiter or Tom Glavine saying that they would like to have Alfonso Soriano on the team as an endorsement to trade away Scott Kazmir to get him. Every comment made by Met players was a simple response to reporters questions asking "what do you think of Soriano" or "would you like to have Soriano on your team." What are the players supposed to say "no, the guy sucks."
Their case already was strong: Soriano's lively bat and athletic body; the energy that would be injected into a discouraged fan base (hello, attendance boost), and the chance - for a change - to score one over the Yankees.
A strong case huh? I guess it would be too much to ask for this clown to realize that if Soriano comes to the Mets he would be transferred to right field and batted lower in the batting order than he had in the past, whether he likes it or not. Once you send him to right field and hit him lower in the order the two main attributes of his game, power and speed, are cut off at the knees. No longer would Soriano be a freakishly productive second basemen but would be a dime a dozen right fielder. An overpaid one at that. And as for the chance "to score one over the Yankees" who the hell cares! But if you're the type of fan that likes to pretend that the Mets and Yankees play each other in the NY East Division, please tell me how taking yet another Bronx reject somehow scores one over on the Yankees? They didn't want Soriano. They shipped him off. They got the best player in the game in return. And they got that best player in the game in return on the cheap. Obtaining Soriano would not be getting one over on the Yankees, it would be taking their sloppy seconds. No thanks, I don't want the Yankees' cooties.
On Thursday night, the case got stronger as the fighting in the Mets' version of Platoon turned out poorly. Karim Garcia and Shane Spencer, the favorites to share right field, were involved in an altercation outside a local bar, much of which I personally witnessed.
Why why why couldn't Spencer and Garcia have urinated on Sherman, ran him over with their Hummer and then thrown him in the bushes!
Interestingly, Spencer and especially Garcia are Mets partly due to a gleaming endorsement Yankee GM Brian Cashman offered his Met counterpart, Jim Duquette. "That's one of the reasons why when I saw it [accounts of this altercation] in the paper I felt so bad," Cashman said by phone. In particular, Cashman had told Duquette that despite Garcia's Fenway bullpen fracas during last year's ALCS Game 3, an incident for which Garcia is still facing assault and battery charges, he thought Garcia had good character.
Cashman! (in my best Seinfeld "Newman!" voice)
Rangers GM John Hart has said he will not deal Soriano this spring. However, a person familiar with the Mets' inner workings, said Hart also said stay in touch. Which Met brass has interpreted as Soriano could be had for the right price. Read Scott Kazmir.
This "person familiar with the Mets' inner workings" is very busy. Get this guy a raise already. I wonder if Sherman has a Windows short cut on his PC desktop for "person familiar with the Mets' inner workings"?
Today there is even more of a case for the Mets to go get Soriano. More stupid Met tricks.
Breath. You can do it. Calm down. Inhale. Exhale. Inhale. Exhale.
Saturday, March 06, 2004
Baseball on the Minds of Supreme Court Justices
On October 10th 1973, United States Supreme Court Justice Harry A. Blackmun was stuck behind the bench listening to lawyer after lawyer pontificate for hours on the dullest of legal issues: a taxpayer airing a bogus grievance about the conduct of government; a group of employees seeking recovery of profit sharing benefits; architects arguing against statutes precluding awards of government contracts; and alas, the scintillating issue of whether an American Indian tribe is exempt from state fishery conservation measures.
This week Justice Blackmun's papers were released by the Library of Congress. The papers are a treasure chest of fascinating information and a rare look into the normally ultra secretive inner workings of the Supreme Court. The papers give us a guided tour through Blackmun's thought process as he wrote the landmark abortion case Roe v. Wade. The papers provide us with a rare glimpse into what goes on behind the closed doors when the Justices meet in a veil of secrecy to decide cases. But more importantly, the papers reveal that on October 10th 1973, other than being bored to tears with the above mentioned cases, the Justices were getting baseball updates! A note in Justice Blackmun's papers, presumably authored by Justice Potter Stewart (a lifelong Reds fan) read, "V.P. Agnew Just Resigned!! Mets 2 Reds 0." It is truly amazing that while complex constitutional issues of national importance are being argued in front of them, and while the nation was in the midst of a political crisis, the Justices were silently passing notes like school children to keep up to speed on the 1973 National League Championship Series between the Mets and Reds! I wonder if Eddie Kranepool, upon knocking in the Mets first two runs in the first inning, sent a note down the dugout updating his teammates on Lefkowitz v. Turley, the exciting government contracts case being heard some 250 miles away in Washington, D.C.?
The release of Blackmun's papers reveals other interesting baseball tidbits. A note read, "Rose grounded to 2nd, Morgan walked, Driessen singled and Morgan took 3rd... NO SCORE." Yet another note shows that the Justices were way ahead of their time in embracing sabermetrics. Well, maybe not, but they knew their stats. This note, presumably written by Justice Blackmun who was die hard Cubs fan, discusses Hall of Fame Cubby outfielder Kiki Cuyler. A Justice (Blackmun?) writes: 1) Stole most bases in the National League; 2) Batted 5th on best team Cubs ever had; 3) Had a great throwing arm; 4) (illegible - to me at least). Bill James would be proud. Cuyler indeed led the National League in stolen bases not once, but three times. While I never had the pleasure of seeing Cuyler play, he did have 21 outfield assists in a season twice, which would place him only one assist behind last year's right field assists leader Richard Hidalgo. Lastly, Blackmun is correct again; Cuyler was on the 1929 and 1932 Cubs teams that made it to the World Series and sure enough, he batted fifth.
It is actually not surprising that baseball related notes would show up in Blackmun's papers. After all, he was a Cubs fan and even belonged to Washington, D.C. based Cubs fan club co founded by current Vice President Dick Cheney called the Emil Verban Memorial Society (Verban was a Cub in 1948-1950 who had 2911 career at bats with only one home run).
However, one need not scour through boxes of Blackmun's papers to find evidence of his love of baseball. Justice Blackmun wrote Flood v. Kuhn in 1972, the case that reaffirmed Major League Baseball's exemption from U.S. antitrust laws. Justice Blackmun took the opportunity in the first introductory section of the opinion to write about the game he loved. Blackmun's ode to baseball if you will. Taking The Baseball Encyclopedia off his shelf, Blackmun began by setting out some of the history of the game, beginning with what many believe to be the first baseball game held on June 19, 1846 between the New York Nine and Knickerbockers on Hoboken's 261 Elysian Fields. Justice Blackman then went on to list some of the famous names in baseball:
Then there are the many names, celebrated for one reason or another, that have sparked the diamond and its environs and that have provided tinder for recaptured thrills, for reminiscence and comparisons, and for conversation and anticipation in-season and off-season:As Supreme Court lore has it, once a draft was circulated certain Justices requested their favorite players be added. Justice Thurgood Marshall was concerned that no black players were listed. Justice Potter Stewart was upset that no Reds players were included. Justice Blackmun revised the draft to please his brethren. Justice Blackmun agonized over which players to include in his own little Opinion of Fame and was shocked to learn that a player he intended to include had somehow been deleted from the final opinion. That player was Giants great Mell Ott and Blackmun is said to have never forgiven himself for the unintentional omission.
Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Tris Speaker, Walter Johnson, Henry Chadwick, Eddie Collins, Lou Gehrig, Grover Cleveland Alexander, Rogers Hornsby, Harry Hooper, Goose Goslin, Jackie Robinson, Honus Wagner, Joe McCarthy, John McGraw, Deacon Phillippe, Rube Marquard, Christy Mathewson, Tommy Leach, Big Ed Delahanty, Davy Jones, Germany Schaefer, King Kelly, Big Dan Brouthers, Wahoo Sam Crawford, Wee Willie Keeler, Big Ed Walsh, Jimmy Austin, Fred Snodgrass, Satchel Paige, Hugh Jennings, Fred Merkle, Iron Man McGinnity, Three-Finger Brown, Harry and Stan Coveleski, Connie Mack, Al Bridwell, Red Ruffing, Amos Rusie, Cy Young, Smokey Joe Wood, Chief Meyers, Chief Bender, Bill Klem, Hans Lobert, Johnny Evers, Joe Tinker, Roy Campanella, Miller Huggins, Rube Bressler, Dazzy Vance, Edd Roush, Bill Wambsganss, Clark Griffith, Branch Rickey, Frank Chance, Cap Anson, Nap Lajoie, Sad Sam Jones, Bob O'Farrell, Lefty O'Doul, Bobby Veach, Willie Kamm, Heinie Groh, Lloyd and Paul Waner, Stuffy McInnis, Charles Comiskey, Roger Bresnahan, Bill Dickey, Zack Wheat, George Sisler, Charlie Gehringer, Eppa Rixey, Harry Heilmann, Fred Clarke, Dizzy Dean, Hank Greenberg, Pie Traynor, Rube Waddell, Bill Terry, Carl Hubbell, Old Hoss Radbourne, Moe Berg, Rabbit Maranville, Jimmie Foxx, Lefty Grove.
The release of Blackmun's papers and the baseball related information found therein is enlightening. The baseball related notes show that the Justices are guilty of what we are all of guilty of. In the middle of the workday they found something a little more fun to do: catch up on baseball. While Justices Stewart and Blackmun had court clerks to scurry around and gather baseball scores, we go to our favorite sports website. The next time I take five minutes from work to catch up on my team I will not feel so bad, not that I ever did. If Justice Blackmun, 1/9th of 1/3rd of the most powerful government in the world can tune out for a few minutes to think about the throwing arm of Kiki Cuyler, then I can take a few minutes to pour over something equally important, like Ty Wigginton's 2003 first half OPS.
Friday, March 05, 2004
Moneyball Bickering Continues
Tracy Ringolsby's penis must be hooked up to a Viagra pumping IV because his hard on for A's GM Billy Bean is stiffer than ever. In his column last year Ringolsby said "Oakland general manager Billy Beane's ego has exploded, and author Michael Lewis has a limited knowledge of baseball and a total infatuation with Beane." Ringolsby is obviously talking about Michael Lewis' book Moneyball. Perhaps prompted by Lewis' recent bitch slapping of him in the latest edition of Sports Illustrated (which I don't think is availabe at si.com), Ringolsby attempts to rekindle this old flame:
Beane pointed out he did not have editorial approval of the book and would not receive any money from its sales. He also said the author's view of the A's approach was surface-level, at best, and did a disservice by oversimplifying the A's way.
Ringolsby does a little research and quotes from what he calls "The company that markets Beane for motivational speaking appearances."
Billy Beane is the general manager of Major League Baseball's small-market Oakland A's," the marketing Web site proclaims. "For the past three years, Beane has been taking on the big boys in baseball, winning more often than not and making fools out of the owners who insist that baseball's economics are out of whack. Beane has figured out how to succeed with a limited ($40 million) payroll, and his methods are driving a lot of old baseball hardheads crazy. He's doing it with computers and statistics wielded by a bunch of college boys who never played baseball.
Ringolsby concludes, "Funny, but while Beane tries to distance himself from the book's concept in baseball circles, he seems to be a willing accomplice when he believes it can benefit him." What's funnier is that here it is about a year after the release of Moneyball and the alleged explosion of Beane's ego, and Ringolsby is still writing about him. So whose more infatuated with Beane; Lewis or Ringolsby?
Beane pointed out he did not have editorial approval of the book and would not receive any money from its sales. He also said the author's view of the A's approach was surface-level, at best, and did a disservice by oversimplifying the A's way.
Ringolsby does a little research and quotes from what he calls "The company that markets Beane for motivational speaking appearances."
Billy Beane is the general manager of Major League Baseball's small-market Oakland A's," the marketing Web site proclaims. "For the past three years, Beane has been taking on the big boys in baseball, winning more often than not and making fools out of the owners who insist that baseball's economics are out of whack. Beane has figured out how to succeed with a limited ($40 million) payroll, and his methods are driving a lot of old baseball hardheads crazy. He's doing it with computers and statistics wielded by a bunch of college boys who never played baseball.
Ringolsby concludes, "Funny, but while Beane tries to distance himself from the book's concept in baseball circles, he seems to be a willing accomplice when he believes it can benefit him." What's funnier is that here it is about a year after the release of Moneyball and the alleged explosion of Beane's ego, and Ringolsby is still writing about him. So whose more infatuated with Beane; Lewis or Ringolsby?
Welcome to the Hood: "Rumblings of a disgruntled Mets fan"
Rumble on over to this new baseball blog with an emphasis on the Mets. John's already got some good content up on steroids, the Mets right field issue and a recap of yesterday's Mets/Cards game.
Kazmir's Poor Make Up is Made Up
In the last few weeks several reports have surfaced questioning the make up, whatever that is, of Mets phenom pitching prospect Scott Kazmir. The NY Post's Joel Sherman (of Hey, Mets: Chase Sori! fame), quoted an unnamed "executive from another team" when he said that Kazmir has a questionable makeup. More recently, David Waldstein of the Star Ledger cited the always reliable "feeling in the Mets organization" when he questioned Kazmir's make up in saying he "is a bit of a free talker and a renegade." According to Waldstein, Kazmir's make up is such a negative that the Mets would be more inclined to trade him because of it. And today, Kazmir's make up is put under the microscope again in three articles drawing comparisons to and saying that Kazmir is in need of advise from Generation K bust Jason Isringhausen. (MLB.com, Newsday and the Star Ledger). Newsday's David Lennon took the opportunity to portray Kazmir as some kind of raging party animal when he insists that "Mets officials fear he [Kazmir] already could be developing a taste for the nightlife."
The questions swirling around Kazmir's make up appear to be completely unfounded. While the Mets contribution to Izzy's physical problems have merit, as Mets brass even admit, comparing Kazmir to Isringhausen's mental predisposition to succumb to the pressures of playing in the Major Leagues is unfair. The MLB.com, Newsday and Star Ledger articles are kind enough to point out some of Isringhausen's off the field exploits, which range from the unlucky (stabbing himself in the leg with a knife trying to open a package), the sad (contracting tuberculosis), the stupid (falling three stories off an apartment building onto his head while drunk), the dumb (breaking his wrist punching a garbage can), to the funny (being chastised by the Mets for playing softball for a local strip joint in Port St. Lucie). What's Kazmir guilty of so far? Where is all this speculation coming from? What has this free talking, renegade said that has spurred countless articles calling his mental well being into question? I'll tell you: he made the mistake of saying that he's starting to fall in love with New York.
The questions swirling around Kazmir's make up appear to be completely unfounded. While the Mets contribution to Izzy's physical problems have merit, as Mets brass even admit, comparing Kazmir to Isringhausen's mental predisposition to succumb to the pressures of playing in the Major Leagues is unfair. The MLB.com, Newsday and Star Ledger articles are kind enough to point out some of Isringhausen's off the field exploits, which range from the unlucky (stabbing himself in the leg with a knife trying to open a package), the sad (contracting tuberculosis), the stupid (falling three stories off an apartment building onto his head while drunk), the dumb (breaking his wrist punching a garbage can), to the funny (being chastised by the Mets for playing softball for a local strip joint in Port St. Lucie). What's Kazmir guilty of so far? Where is all this speculation coming from? What has this free talking, renegade said that has spurred countless articles calling his mental well being into question? I'll tell you: he made the mistake of saying that he's starting to fall in love with New York.
Thursday, March 04, 2004
A Few Notes from the Mets Exhibition/Thrashing Against the Dodgers
Well, the Mets pitchers made the offense starved Dodgers line-up look like murderers rowe. Some of the other Mets blogs have done a good job summing up the game, but I just wanted to point a few things out.
First, Jim Duquette seems primed and ready to pull the trigger on a deal that would send a prospect or prospects away in return for a veteran. During the game, Duquette said (and I'm doing the best with quotes here) "We have the resources, both money and prospects, to make a move." I'm all for dealing away prospects when you have the depth to do it, as the Mets do, but the Mets have to, I repeat, have to, hold on to several key prospects. Kazmir and Wright are untouchable in my book.
Of all the happenings during and around the game yesterday that registered on the unintentional comedy scale, my favorite was when Jeff Brantley (is that Soul Glow in his hair?) was spewing his theories about John Franco. Soul Glow, who apparently borrowed Pedro Martinez's hair products, said something like, "there's going to be a controversy because people think his spot on the Mets staff should be taken by a young pitcher. But let me tell you ladies and gentlemen, Franco is here because he has earned it and as long as he can get people out . . . ." KABLAAAAM!!!! Soul glow is stopped mid-sentence as a Dodger hitter, I think it was Cabrera or Thurston, takes Franco deep. Soul Glow just keeps going as if the homer never happened.
First, Jim Duquette seems primed and ready to pull the trigger on a deal that would send a prospect or prospects away in return for a veteran. During the game, Duquette said (and I'm doing the best with quotes here) "We have the resources, both money and prospects, to make a move." I'm all for dealing away prospects when you have the depth to do it, as the Mets do, but the Mets have to, I repeat, have to, hold on to several key prospects. Kazmir and Wright are untouchable in my book.
Of all the happenings during and around the game yesterday that registered on the unintentional comedy scale, my favorite was when Jeff Brantley (is that Soul Glow in his hair?) was spewing his theories about John Franco. Soul Glow, who apparently borrowed Pedro Martinez's hair products, said something like, "there's going to be a controversy because people think his spot on the Mets staff should be taken by a young pitcher. But let me tell you ladies and gentlemen, Franco is here because he has earned it and as long as he can get people out . . . ." KABLAAAAM!!!! Soul glow is stopped mid-sentence as a Dodger hitter, I think it was Cabrera or Thurston, takes Franco deep. Soul Glow just keeps going as if the homer never happened.
Wednesday, March 03, 2004
For the Love of God, Let it Go!
Bob Klapisch just can't seem to let his own personal Soriano for prospect X trade rumor die. He started it and he's making sure the story has legs by taking it out of the Bergen Record and onto the bigger soap box of ESPN.com.
Bill Madden Gets It
In weaving together several themes I have touched on recently, Bill Madden of the Daily News shows that he gets it. In today's article, Mets Play It Safe Rather Than Sori, Madden compares the current Met philosophy to that embodied by the 1969 World Champion Mets. He points out the creativity of the NY sports media regarding the recent Soriano trade rumors. And in my favorite part of the article, Mets pitching coach Rick Peterson is quoted as saying that Scott Kazmir has "got an Indy 500 engine and that's a rare thing to have." I don't know why, but I get a kick out of whenever Peterson analogizes his pitchers to cars, which is about 10 times per week. Here are a few other excerpts:
It is the right way to go [pitching and defense], especially when you play in a spacious, windy ballpark like Shea Stadium, and it is why Mike Cameron, the center field whiz, was absolutely the perfect signing for the Mets this winter.
Madden's right. Vladamir Guerrero is a very good player but Cameron is a better fit for this team right now. And when factoring in all variables, such as the fact that Guerrero's offensive numbers were inflated by playing in Montreal, Cameron's numbers were deflated from playing half his games in Safeco, Guerrero's awful defense, Cameron's superb defense, the disparity between the offense that is expected from a center fielder versus a right fielder, the huge difference in price, and Guerrero's health, the difference between the two players is closer than what many fans might think at first blush.
A certain element of the local scribes finds this unsatisfactory to the point where they are creating trades for Alfonso Soriano, the ex-Yankee golden boy who was sacrificed to Texas in the A-Rod deal.
Why be discrete? The creative writers are Bob Kaplisch and David Waldstein.
But just for the record, here's what a highly placed Mets source said yesterday about these creative rumors: "Why would anyone think we would trade any of our best young players for a guy we'd have only two years of control over?"
While I like this article from Madden, I would love to see more sources being named. I'm tired of this "highly placed Mets source" and "sources close to Mets thinking" etc...
On the surface, this may be the best aggregate of young arms the Mets have signed and developed since the Tom Seaver, Jerry Koosman, Gary Gentry, Jim McAndrew group in 1969.
With the Mets right now, you've got to close your eyes and harken back to 1969 when pitching and defense were a beautiful thing to watch.
My eyes are closed, I'm harkening, and I like what I see. However, the Mets need to bridge the gap better between the old pitchers that are on their way out and the young pitchers that are on their way in.
It is the right way to go [pitching and defense], especially when you play in a spacious, windy ballpark like Shea Stadium, and it is why Mike Cameron, the center field whiz, was absolutely the perfect signing for the Mets this winter.
Madden's right. Vladamir Guerrero is a very good player but Cameron is a better fit for this team right now. And when factoring in all variables, such as the fact that Guerrero's offensive numbers were inflated by playing in Montreal, Cameron's numbers were deflated from playing half his games in Safeco, Guerrero's awful defense, Cameron's superb defense, the disparity between the offense that is expected from a center fielder versus a right fielder, the huge difference in price, and Guerrero's health, the difference between the two players is closer than what many fans might think at first blush.
A certain element of the local scribes finds this unsatisfactory to the point where they are creating trades for Alfonso Soriano, the ex-Yankee golden boy who was sacrificed to Texas in the A-Rod deal.
Why be discrete? The creative writers are Bob Kaplisch and David Waldstein.
But just for the record, here's what a highly placed Mets source said yesterday about these creative rumors: "Why would anyone think we would trade any of our best young players for a guy we'd have only two years of control over?"
While I like this article from Madden, I would love to see more sources being named. I'm tired of this "highly placed Mets source" and "sources close to Mets thinking" etc...
On the surface, this may be the best aggregate of young arms the Mets have signed and developed since the Tom Seaver, Jerry Koosman, Gary Gentry, Jim McAndrew group in 1969.
With the Mets right now, you've got to close your eyes and harken back to 1969 when pitching and defense were a beautiful thing to watch.
My eyes are closed, I'm harkening, and I like what I see. However, the Mets need to bridge the gap better between the old pitchers that are on their way out and the young pitchers that are on their way in.
Tuesday, March 02, 2004
Erickson Gets Rocked In Mets Intrasquad Game
NYFS is reporting that Scott Erickson got lit up for seven runs in one inning in the Mets second intrasquad game today. I hope this means that some of the younger guys, like my pick Tyler Yates, are a step closer to stealing the fifth starter job.
Changing His Tune
Last week the NY Post's Kevin Kernan completed a tri-fecta of Post reporters that thought the Mets should deal Scott Kazmir to obtain free swinging Alfonso Soriano. On Tuesday, February 24th Kernan said, "Last Tuesday, the Post's Joel Sherman made the suggestion that the Mets put together a package of young pitchers to mound-challenged Texas for Soriano, a deal that made complete sense." While Kernan did not mention Kazmir in particular, he specifically agreed with Sherman's article that pleaded with the Mets to deal Kazmir. Kernan is singing a different tune after watching Kazmir in person throw a scoreless inning in an intrasquad game, featuring a 91 MPH fastball and a knee bucking changeup. Kernan said, "Just as the Mets would be crazy to trade Jose Reyes, as I pointed out last week, they would be doubly certifiable to deal away the lefty Kazmir."
1969 World Series
ESPN Classic aired a one hour summary of the 1969 World Series between the Mets and Orioles yesterday. I Tivo'd it and when I got home last night my night was set. Give me my remote, my lazy boy, some popcorn and I'm as happy as a pig in $h!t. The documentary was a really old school, low budget special, but it was fun to watch nonetheless. Here are a few random thoughts as I watched it.
Babe Ruth's wife threw out the first pitch, with Ted Williams along side her. I could be wrong, but I think Williams' third leg was cryogenically frozen when he stole a glimpse at Mrs. Ruth's caboose.
Was there anyone better at charging a trickler down the third base line than Brooks Robinson? He was quick on the line drives too, which got me thinking. Ty Wigginton did fine job at third base last year showing good hands. The criticism of his fielding is his range. But if I had to pick one attribute for a third basemen, good hands/reflexes or good range, I would choose good hands/reflexes any day of the week. They don't call it the hot corner for nothing.
Boog Powell looks like Biff from Back to the Future.
Frank Robinson looked mean even back then.
After watching Tom Seaver and Jerry Koosman, I'm more convinced than ever (I didn't need any more convincing) that the Mets would be nuts to trade any top tier pitching prospect for Alfonso Soriano. Pitching wins championships plain and simple while power hitting corner outfielders are a dime a dozen. You take the chance of a stud pitching prospect fizzling before you deal him away for what amounts to simple above average, or perhaps top 1/3, right fielder.
If you think Shea Stadium is ugly now, you should have seen it back then. And in 1969 it was a brand spankin new stadium!
Speaking of Shea, the infield dirt was dry as a bone. I guess they didn't spray down the infield mid game back then like they do now. But it was cool like that. If there was a sliding play at any of the bases you had no idea whether the runner was safe our out. All you could see was a huge cloud of dust and after a few seconds the players would reappear.
No one chokes up anymore? Back in the day many hitters would choke up depending on the situation. I noticed both small guys like Buddy Harrelson and Al Weis, as well as sluggers like Don Clendenon, choking up. These days everyone is swinging for the fences in every situation. Lenny Dykstra touched on this a few weeks ago in an interview with The Daily News when he said,
I don't see that anymore. I see guys up there, down two runs in the ninth inning, hacking at a 2-and-0 pitch with no one on base. You can't hit a two-run home run with no one on. A lot of it has to do with money, I know that. But if you want to win, there are ways you have to play the game.
Earl Weaver was the manager of the 1969 Orioles. Damn, that guy's older than dirt.
The Mets beat the Braves in the first NLCS to get to the World Series.
Joe DiMaggio was everywhere. The guy was like baseball's version of Hugh Heffner.
I can't believe we traded Nolan Ryan.
Damn, it was awesome to watch the city electrified by the Mets.
How cool is it that Eddie Kranepool was the only original 1962 Met to play through the dark ages to finally win the World Series with the Mets in 1969. Kranepool played his entire career with the blue and orange, from 1962-1979.
Willie Mays' "The Catch" gets a lot of ink as the best catch in the history of the World Series. I'm sorry, but Tommy Agee's two ridiculous, game three catches were better.
Babe Ruth's wife threw out the first pitch, with Ted Williams along side her. I could be wrong, but I think Williams' third leg was cryogenically frozen when he stole a glimpse at Mrs. Ruth's caboose.
Was there anyone better at charging a trickler down the third base line than Brooks Robinson? He was quick on the line drives too, which got me thinking. Ty Wigginton did fine job at third base last year showing good hands. The criticism of his fielding is his range. But if I had to pick one attribute for a third basemen, good hands/reflexes or good range, I would choose good hands/reflexes any day of the week. They don't call it the hot corner for nothing.
Boog Powell looks like Biff from Back to the Future.
Frank Robinson looked mean even back then.
After watching Tom Seaver and Jerry Koosman, I'm more convinced than ever (I didn't need any more convincing) that the Mets would be nuts to trade any top tier pitching prospect for Alfonso Soriano. Pitching wins championships plain and simple while power hitting corner outfielders are a dime a dozen. You take the chance of a stud pitching prospect fizzling before you deal him away for what amounts to simple above average, or perhaps top 1/3, right fielder.
If you think Shea Stadium is ugly now, you should have seen it back then. And in 1969 it was a brand spankin new stadium!
Speaking of Shea, the infield dirt was dry as a bone. I guess they didn't spray down the infield mid game back then like they do now. But it was cool like that. If there was a sliding play at any of the bases you had no idea whether the runner was safe our out. All you could see was a huge cloud of dust and after a few seconds the players would reappear.
No one chokes up anymore? Back in the day many hitters would choke up depending on the situation. I noticed both small guys like Buddy Harrelson and Al Weis, as well as sluggers like Don Clendenon, choking up. These days everyone is swinging for the fences in every situation. Lenny Dykstra touched on this a few weeks ago in an interview with The Daily News when he said,
I don't see that anymore. I see guys up there, down two runs in the ninth inning, hacking at a 2-and-0 pitch with no one on base. You can't hit a two-run home run with no one on. A lot of it has to do with money, I know that. But if you want to win, there are ways you have to play the game.
Earl Weaver was the manager of the 1969 Orioles. Damn, that guy's older than dirt.
The Mets beat the Braves in the first NLCS to get to the World Series.
Joe DiMaggio was everywhere. The guy was like baseball's version of Hugh Heffner.
I can't believe we traded Nolan Ryan.
Damn, it was awesome to watch the city electrified by the Mets.
How cool is it that Eddie Kranepool was the only original 1962 Met to play through the dark ages to finally win the World Series with the Mets in 1969. Kranepool played his entire career with the blue and orange, from 1962-1979.
Willie Mays' "The Catch" gets a lot of ink as the best catch in the history of the World Series. I'm sorry, but Tommy Agee's two ridiculous, game three catches were better.
Monday, March 01, 2004
Hot Corner Poll Update
It's a neck and neck - well, neck and very large head - race between Grant Roberts and Mr. Met in the Hot Corner poll over who the Mets 5th starter should be. Weigh in and cast your vote!
Gleeman on Mike Cameron
Check out Aaron's Baseball Blog, which points out that the Seattle brass has once again disparaged Mike Cameron. While you are over there, run a search for Mike Cameron. Gleeman has at least three or four really good articles featuring the Mets new CF.
Ego Masturbation: From Reporting the News to Becoming the News
Newsday's John Heyman is apparently not content with his current job as Newsday sports columnist. As Yankees, Mets and the Rest pointed out last week (who have named Heyman official enemy of their site), Heyman needed to "take a break from the stink of spring training." Why the hell would one need to take a break from a dream job of getting paid to go to Florida in the dead of winter and report on baseball? Well apparently Heyman needs a break from reporting on sports stories so that he can insert himself into issues so that he becomes the story. The most obvious example of this is his chasing Gary Sheffield around with a dixie cup. Heyman was more than happy to grant several interviews describing his piss hunting exploits. Now Heyman writes that he, the all knowing and wise one, has been grilled by Mets players about the possibility of the Mets trading for Soriano. I was pleased, however, when Heyman got off his high horse and conceded that players usually "think they have better things to do than initiate conversations with reporters." My hopes for the salvation of Heyman's arrogant soul were dashed the very next line when he wrote that players "are wrong about having better things to do. But that's how they think." So let's recap. John Heyman said, in an open and public forum, that Major League Baseball players have nothing better to do than have conversations with him. While I did not see his smug grill when he wrote this, I think Heyman typed this with a straight face. If this isn't the worse case of ego masturbation I have ever seen, I don't know what is.
Case of the Mundys
Check out today's NY Times feature on Mike Cameron, The Art of Catching a Fly: Playing the Angles. The more I read about Cameron the more I like him. And for those of you that just can't get enough of Cameron, check out his personal website here. I came across the site a few months ago when Cameron was first dealt to the Mets and I was pleased to see that he has recently updated it. Check it out and don't forget to play the video clip of Cameron's cute little grandmother.
In AMAZIN'S SUFFER 1ST KAZUALTY, the Post updates us on Kaz Matsui's lacerated finger he suffered while fielding a ground ball. The finger required two stitches and will keep Kaz out for a week. This puts Matsui back a week but more importantly it means that I will miss seeing Matsui play this week in the nationally televised pre season game against the Dodgers. Can someone tell me how the hell a baseball slices someone's finger to the point that they need stitches?
Newsday reports that Scott Kazmir's pops is just as confused as the rest of us with the Kazmir for Soriano trade rumors that were created by several area sports reporters who cite the "feeling in the Mets organization" and "certain elements of the [Mets] hierarchy." Bob Kaplisch and David Waldstein can't even humor us with the obligatory "sources close to the Mets thinking."
Rick Peterson continues his fascination with comparing his pitchers to cars. A week or so ago, Peterson said of Scott Kazmir, "He's off the charts, that's my initial impression. He's pretty exciting. It's like being in a showroom with a fancy sports car. It's just a question when we turn him loose." More recently, Peterson said, "I can't wait for the checkered flag. . . This is a race with a lot of great cars. Gentleman, start your engines." I'm worried about our pitchers. I hope Peterson is not spiking our pitchers' Gatoraide with antifreeze. In the article, Peterson is talking about the race for the fifth starter job. I'm personally hoping Tyler Yates gets the job because I think a guy who throws the heat he does will be a nice change of pace for the Mets rotation. Although the last I checked Mr. Met was the leading candidate in my latest Hot Corner Poll.
In AMAZIN'S SUFFER 1ST KAZUALTY, the Post updates us on Kaz Matsui's lacerated finger he suffered while fielding a ground ball. The finger required two stitches and will keep Kaz out for a week. This puts Matsui back a week but more importantly it means that I will miss seeing Matsui play this week in the nationally televised pre season game against the Dodgers. Can someone tell me how the hell a baseball slices someone's finger to the point that they need stitches?
Newsday reports that Scott Kazmir's pops is just as confused as the rest of us with the Kazmir for Soriano trade rumors that were created by several area sports reporters who cite the "feeling in the Mets organization" and "certain elements of the [Mets] hierarchy." Bob Kaplisch and David Waldstein can't even humor us with the obligatory "sources close to the Mets thinking."
Rick Peterson continues his fascination with comparing his pitchers to cars. A week or so ago, Peterson said of Scott Kazmir, "He's off the charts, that's my initial impression. He's pretty exciting. It's like being in a showroom with a fancy sports car. It's just a question when we turn him loose." More recently, Peterson said, "I can't wait for the checkered flag. . . This is a race with a lot of great cars. Gentleman, start your engines." I'm worried about our pitchers. I hope Peterson is not spiking our pitchers' Gatoraide with antifreeze. In the article, Peterson is talking about the race for the fifth starter job. I'm personally hoping Tyler Yates gets the job because I think a guy who throws the heat he does will be a nice change of pace for the Mets rotation. Although the last I checked Mr. Met was the leading candidate in my latest Hot Corner Poll.
